Bring Back the Old Punkbuster System

Zeppelin35 · Post by **Zeppelin35** » 2008-04-12 17:55

I know that many people here have had many problems with the new punkbuster system. Although it does a better job of catching cheaters, it also kicks a lot of honest players. For me it's gotten so bad that I can't even play on my favorite servers anymore. I've tried finding solutions but I can't. In all honestly this is just insane. During all the time I've played PR I have never run into a single hacker.

I just want to hear from the rest of you if you want to keep the new punkbuster system or go back to the old one.

PS. Sorry I don't know how to start a poll.

ice_killer · Post by **ice_killer** » 2008-04-12 18:01

what is so differnt about his 1 compart to the old 1?

ill be n00b that i dont know but then tell me

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-12 18:02

He's is talking about the md5 checks that are now enabled.

Brummy · Post by **Brummy** » 2008-04-12 18:06

Thank god that you don't know how to make a poll

Anyway, I've had no MD5 problems so far, only PnkbstrB Communication failures, but that's not PR's problem (it's solved anyway). So I vote no, keep the current system, a lot of xfire buddies don't have problems as well.

Ryan3215 · Post by **Ryan3215** » 2008-04-12 18:24

Can we remove PB from servers? Its not like we need it because theyre unranked and nobody cheats anyway

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-12 18:25

Ryan3215 wrote:Can we remove PB from servers? Its not like we need it because theyre unranked and nobody cheats anyway

Ryan3215 · Post by **Ryan3215** » 2008-04-12 18:34

what? if its gone there will be less lag and server issues. nobody cheats on unranked servers anyway because there is nothing to gain, and if anyone bothers to DL a large mod such as this jsut to cheat deserves to be blacklisted..

ReaperMAC · Post by **ReaperMAC** » 2008-04-12 18:42

People still cheat. W/o the MD5 Shader thing enabled, people who cheat will be at an advantage because they do not have to deal with the suppression system.

Post by **bosco_** » 2008-04-12 18:48

Ryan3215 wrote: nobody cheats on unranked servers anyway because there is nothing to gain

That statement is so false.

Post by **Rhino** » 2008-04-12 19:09

Ryan3215 wrote:nobody cheats on unranked servers anyway because there is nothing to gain

oh rly? Here is a small list of hackers caught playing PR with hacks.

Username: Necrosexual
GUID: f7736e5d4b98324b5a5ffb89c16bdfe3
VIOLATION: glitching into buildings
http://www.r2clan.com/modules/Forums/files/screen025_103.jpg

Username: =FSG= SuperIronwill
GUID: dcc460555af9d692d01a963ac983b3ba
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6937/pb003398rr0.png
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/3263/pb003346zz1.png
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/892/pb003451pm2.png
http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/7719/pb003539xd2.png
ImageShack - Hosting :: pb003501ue1.png
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2373/pb003713sv6.png
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7418/pb003610wn0.png

Username: TmWrk_ Tm4_Zoot
GUID: 06395b42f3a41f893f3e58681ae2c18f
http://img245.imageshack.us/img245/2994/pb002544hv8.png
http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/6637/pb003058ft7.png
http://hxnorway.com/modules/Hall_of_Sha ... 010_im.png

Username: hoc|trivit
GUID: 00133098b680f91f6bfea515eb1aa912
http://img106.imageshack.us/img106/7090/pb005216oj7.png

Username: Slay-tanic-war-moc
GUID: cadc2ec2868b600483403962dc246
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http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q286 ... 000024.png
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http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q286 ... 000031.png
http://i139.photobucket.com/albums/q286 ... 000022.png

Username: OUST-AIR-SANITIZER (same person as above)
GUID: cadc2ec2868b3db600483403962dc246
http://forums.dvbsquad.com/imagehosting ... 010205.png

Username: -=OTB=-|Techniquel
GUID: d93168b4adde8b2fceab6ce9702f6ba7
http://hxnorway.com/demos/auto_2007_02_ ... 51.bf2demo

Username: kazuya02200220
GUID: 78bc8c1ff59c16eedc3dc437d2052318
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/pb000017.png

Username: yo=da! samuraioo
GUID: 5424fee98d73d4420b1165d6bece887f
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/pb000010.png

Username: marutinko
GUID: 2027d082f2cb839f2e6b66d53d7bf2f4
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/pb000037.png

Username: Stika1114
GUID: bce68a0352ba864ed1bd94cadd459a96
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/pb000999.png

Username: JEX1908
GUID: fd50319fe092910d1d110bdf421aca09
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/auto_2007_02_19_22_35_32.bf2demo
http://fpsgamers.info/c-board/file/auto_2007_02_19_23_19_21.bf2demo

Username: (0)^777-21
GUID: cadc2ec2868b3db600483403962dc246
http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/1668/pb000073mc4.png

Username: {SAS}Noxious
GUID: c0e06d2c461edfb2298442b06621caf3

Username: E-111-jackal)-spa(-
GUID: da30654389ea7fb2d44e2e989e2cb8f7
http://hxnorway.com/modules/Hall_of_...0000012_im.png

Username: CavNinja2 [67.168.193.103:4731]
GUID: d2d48e985817f558eaa2f1be8fcfc795
VIOLATION: AIMBOT

Username: SlimyBalls [75.129.224.238:2788]
GUID: fb23077ddab60b8e9c657c15d3697211
VIOLATION: AIMBOT

Username: BlackHawkBrother
GUID: 3e7bbafcc599c3eefb5a993eaa835036
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/1849/pb001674xz4.png
http://img75.imageshack.us/img75/9466/pb002260yn4.png

Username: 3|V|A|D|3|N
GUID: a86c591e5512d5e3a28d80137ff6f003 (this guys old hash 3c827c45aa88990d7808b83a85781dfe)
IP: 71.123.140.87
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y14/ca ... 000084.jpg

Username: =RdD= brazill
GUID: d4a14041fdb2eeec6949504d651de85a
VIOLATION: RED DOT
http://www.dvbhosting.com/images/is%20i ... %20dot.PNG

Username: yo=da! samuraioo
GUID: ...
VIOLATION: Red Dot
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1369/pb014948po5.png

Username: [AK47]|503|[KILLA]
GUID: ...
VIOLATION: Enemy Nametags
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/3605/pb021099iy7.png

Username: =82nd= Reaver178
GUID: 531db8f4492ce78630b4c602c61b52be
VIOLATION:

Username: Bigdaddy55
GUID: 0ff87b5e5d3564f51645f5ce1348cdbb
VIOLATION: Altered Skybox
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd26 ... 000201.png
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd26 ... 000165.png

Username: Foderoso
GUID: bbd7068b27842ae81026e7604bb35b2a
VIOLATION: AIMBOT #50084

Username: meirppp
GUID: 32be0c566fc95011b2bb577ab2b05895
VIOLATION: team switch cheat (player was spawning at usmc base in mapstart as usmc-soldier but was counted as mec. he started shooting usmc guys, getting killcounts for that but no tk.)

Username: |TG| EBODude / |TG|Wolfe336
GUID: 09d553936a5718377924cd3e55642303 80064556
VIOLATION: Blatant Aimbot on the TG server.

Username: Pvt Scott|13thmeu
GUID: 09dbac2520f473d03f7c6b0895db8d34
IP: 99.236.242.255
VIOLATION: Rotor Hacker banned for hacking, cussing, and TK'ing

Username: AK47MURDER
GUID: e9ac24c9b3d5850b994fd19ca15dbe1e
IP: 207.32.55.210
VIOLATION: Nametag Cheats
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000234.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000276.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000295.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000307.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000315.png
http://wnp-clan.ru/PR/pict/busted/pb000354.png

are you happy? you probably play against hackers more times than you think, and many people turned off the shaders as it was such a easy thing to do, i mean just joining though xfire did it and most ppl join servers though xfire, i know i use to alot before the new exe came out.

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2008-04-12 19:14

Ryan3215 wrote:Can we remove PB from servers? Its not like we need it because theyre unranked and nobody cheats anyway

Most naive statement I've ever heard. Just recently we had a big issue of players turning off the suppression shaders (Which is one of the reasons why I think the MD5 checks exist now). If you think people don't cheat, think again.

Liquid_Cow · Post by **Liquid_Cow** » 2008-04-12 20:02

Wasn't there a screen shot from last summer of the command asset hack, where it was raining Vodnicks on a PR server?

You want to set up your own server and run w/o PB be our guest, but I won't be playing there.