One of the startup pictures - Fix black square..

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-27 14:27

Hey.. This picture had "Project Reality Minimod" text on the top pre. 0.7.. After 0.7 that text was removed, but a black square-thing appeared instead (it is more black than the rest of the picture).. Maybe it should be fixed?

I have marked where it is with a white line.. The black square is above the white line.. =)

Screenshot:
http://stashbox.org/108265/BF2%20Projec ... uare...png

If it is hard to see it on this picture, you can start PR yourself and look at it..

AirCasper · Post by **AirCasper** » 2008-04-27 16:01

recalibrate your monitor m8

its much too bright.

as a graphic artist and print specialist my monitor is set to display true printed color going to my epson r1800.

im not saying go out and buy a 300$ calibration machine, im pretty sure there is free software that will get your monitor calibrated so games, photos, and graphics show up the way the artist intended them to be.

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-27 17:06

AirCasper wrote:recalibrate your monitor m8

its much too bright.

as a graphic artist and print specialist my monitor is set to display true printed color going to my epson r1800.

im not saying go out and buy a 300$ calibration machine, im pretty sure there is free software that will get your monitor calibrated so games, photos, and graphics show up the way the artist intended them to be.

Hmn, so you dont get that more-black square thing in the middle?
When you say that my screen is too much bright, how come that the square thing is completely black, while the rest of the picture is not that black?

Before the text was removed, the whole picture was in the same color, but after the text remove, that black-square thing has appeared, and that is more black than the rest of the picture..

{B]But I see that my screen might be too bright..
How do I change that? Should I edit/change for example brightness, gamma, contrast, digital vibration or sharper picture? What do you think?

l|Bubba|l · Post by **l|Bubba|l** » 2008-04-27 17:48

Grasli wrote:Hmn, so you dont get that more-black square thing in the middle?
When you say that my screen is too much bright, how come that the square thing is completely black, while the rest of the picture is not that black?

Before the text was removed, the whole picture was in the same color, but after the text remove, that black-square thing has appeared, and that is more black than the rest of the picture..

{B]But I see that my screen might be too bright..
How do I change that? Should I edit/change for example brightness, gamma, contrast, digital vibration or sharper picture? What do you think?

The Blackbox is there but the color difference is extreme small. (#00000 to #010101)

HughJass · Post by **HughJass** » 2008-04-27 18:25

i dont get it.

squall6677 · Post by **squall6677** » 2008-04-27 18:26

might not be brightness could be contrast, he means we cant see it as we have our monitor setup properly.

you need to do a proper setup, Nvidia and ATI provide the tests in their recent forceware for newer graphics cards.

AirCasper · Post by **AirCasper** » 2008-04-27 19:50

it is brightness

you see when you have your brightness pulled all the way up, it will only affect tones between (white) FFFFFF and (black) 000000

so your brightness will not effect the black color (the box they covered the text up with)

however, it will make the rest of the "so called black" (010101) a slightly brighter tone.. which will cause more contrast between the true black, and the "off-black"

get it now?

so just bring the brightness on your monitor down a bit

Adobe has a color calibration tool for monitors, its free too..

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-28 16:54

AirCasper wrote:it is brightness

you see when you have your brightness pulled all the way up, it will only affect tones between (white) FFFFFF and (black) 000000

so your brightness will not effect the black color (the box they covered the text up with)

however, it will make the rest of the "so called black" (010101) a slightly brighter tone.. which will cause more contrast between the true black, and the "off-black"

get it now?

so just bring the brightness on your monitor down a bit

Adobe has a color calibration tool for monitors, its free too..

Yep, I tried to set the brightness down with the settings on my computer, not the buttons on my screen (from 100% to 96%) and it worked great.. I no longer see the box (although I dont think the colors are perfect though).. But if I set it lower than that, all things becomes so dark..

And another thing is that I need to edit those settings on every account on my computer.. :/

Btw, where can I find that Adobe color calibration tool? And does that work for my computer in general, or only one account at a time?

Im glad the brightness thing worked though, so now I dont see the black box anymore

AirCasper · Post by **AirCasper** » 2008-04-28 17:49

Grasli wrote:Yep, I tried to set the brightness down with the settings on my computer, not the buttons on my screen (from 100% to 96%) and it worked great.. I no longer see the box (although I dont think the colors are perfect though).. But if I set it lower than that, all things becomes so dark..

And another thing is that I need to edit those settings on every account on my computer.. :/

Btw, where can I find that Adobe color calibration tool? And does that work for my computer in general, or only one account at a time?
Im glad the brightness thing worked though, so now I dont see the black box anymore

I will have to look around for the adobe program for you;

But it's interesting your monitor gets dark bellow 96%

are you using a CRT monitor? (one of the older non LCD monitors)

normally I notice they are a bit more sensitive.

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-28 18:08

AirCasper wrote:I will have to look around for the adobe program for you;

But it's interesting your monitor gets dark bellow 96%

are you using a CRT monitor? (one of the older non LCD monitors)

normally I notice they are a bit more sensitive.

Heh, I mean that it gets darker and darker the lower I set it to (I tried various % values, and found out that 96% worked great)...
I tried some maps on PR, for example Bi Ming, and if I set the brightness to something between 80% and 90% (maybe I tried down to 70% too), the map gets to dark on some places.. But as I said before, this is settings on my computer, and not the buttons on my screen.. I tried the buttons on the screen too, but I didnt notice any difference with the black box...

Believe me, it is nothing wrong with the map.. Bi Ming is one of the best maps in PR

Btw, why didnt the DEVs fix the picture in another way when they removed the text? What about just editing the text (remove each letter), and then we wouldnt need that black box.. ? Or wasn't that possible?

squall6677 · Post by **squall6677** » 2008-04-28 18:09

your monitor setting will be same on every account on your PC, you are changing the setting of your monitor, not your PC

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-28 18:47

squall6677 wrote:your monitor setting will be same on every account on your PC, you are changing the setting of your monitor, not your PC

Hmn yeah.. I said before that I changed some settings on my computer, not with the buttons on my monitor/screen..

When changing settings on my computer, I do this:
Rightclick on desktop - Properties - Settings, then Advanced, and then press on "GeForce 6600 GT".. Then I can change gamma, brightness etc, but it seems that it is for that specific account on the computer only, and not other accounts.. :/

Am I doing this in the wrong way? If yes, how should I do it?

Maybe I should try the buttons on the monitor again (tried it before though), but Ill see if I can try that Adobe program too (if someone has a link)..

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-28 20:34

I might found some color-calibration programs - See link below.. Should I use some of these programs? There is a link to a Adobe program on that site though, but it doesnt work.. I have seen somewhere that Adobe color-calibration is included with Adobe Photoshop (which I dont have though).. Maybe someone knows about an older version?

Monitor calibration and gamma

Maybe I should download and try this program, or does someone know about another program?
Monitor calibration and gamma
You may also want to see this (link from the program above) (look down and you will find "Black level (brightness)" too:
Monitor calibration and gamma

squall6677 · Post by **squall6677** » 2008-04-28 22:09

Use the buttons on your monitor to adjust you brightness/colour/contrast etc.

never use your catalyst.

pick any of the prgrams you mentioned, save them to your disk, run the program, and adjust the settings as told to do so by the program (only using your monitor buttons!!!!)

Grasli · Post by **Grasli** » 2008-04-29 17:55

squall6677 wrote:Use the buttons on your monitor to adjust you brightness/colour/contrast etc.

never use your catalyst.

pick any of the prgrams you mentioned, save them to your disk, run the program, and adjust the settings as told to do so by the program (only using your monitor buttons!!!!)

Heh.. I have tried a bit now, and I didnt see any change.. I gave up

But, cant the picture just be fixed by the DEVs? Just make the black box to have the same "black"-color as the rest of the picture..?
The main thing is that I hate that black box, if the whole picture would have had the same black color this would not be a problem..

So, can it be fixed in some way? Back in the older versions the picture had the text "Project Reality Mini-Mod".. What about just editing THAT picture, and remove "Mini-Mod", but let "Project Reality" stay?