Landing a transport chopper

mat2d2
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Landing a transport chopper

Post by mat2d2 »

Hi guys. I'm new to PR. Only got introduced to it by my flatmate when we were discussing bunny hopping in CoD4 and he mentioned there was a BF2 mod that got rid of this ha. I'm kind of hooked now :D

I was never really any good at flying in BF2 but decided to give it a go in PR as it seems like a fun roll. I got a hold of the training mod and have been practising my flying skills with some of the transport choppers.

I can now take off easy and fly pretty well although I've not had much air time in real games with enemy fire. One thing I can't master is the art of landing.
Even when I know a flat piece of land with no obstructions I can't land a Helo on it without sustaining damage or flipping 9 times out of 10 and the one time I can land it I usually have to hover for 20 or so seconds before it hits the ground(Not very useful if I start to come under fire)

Can you guys offer any tips? At what altitude should I start coming down at and what kind of speed and also what distance should I start my decent. Basicly everything that you could tell me would be helpful :P


(I use the mouse+keyboard to fly btw)
Teek
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Re: Landing a transport chopper

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Dont touch S below 25-50m, make sure your level and you may want to flare to reduce speed. Float to the ground. Don't move the mouse while pressing S (s if ok above 40m, just so long as you have time to recover)
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if you whant too drop the troops water drop them when there is a river close saves a lot of time :)
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A trick I have found useful is to pretty much land it like you might land a plane. Come in low and fast, pull up before you touch down to reduce speed, then put it down. A road is usually the best place for this, and Kashan on local is a great testing map. On the US side, keep practicing hugging the terrain until you can fly from main to North Village without ever really going high up. The roads around there are also prime landing spots. Another option is to come in high, dive down, then pull up before you land, but that's a bit trickier. Whatever you do, don't just fly in at a high altitude, then try dropping vertically.

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-Put this together for you in a hurry:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MS4nYJZ4Sgc[/youtube]
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Good tip is to land in a safe, flat, area. Dont risk you or your teammates' lives by trying to be cool and doing a drop in a combat area.
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Post by waldo_ii »

I was going to say the same thing as DuneHunter.

Go fast and hug the ground. Once you are near your destination, bring the tip of the heli up and let go of W. This will reduce your speed, and if done just right, your back landing wheel will hit first (gently too), then front. If you end up too far up from the ground, you can use S. Dont keep it pressed down, though. You will speed up quickly and it can be hard to stop yourself. Tap S a bunch instead. Also, make sure you let go of W. If you keep W pressed down after you bring your nose up, your helicopter will go straight back up into the air. Backwards. Very bad.

Make sure you are at MOST going 90kmh. A safe number is 40.

Lots of practice.

Water drops are great if possible.

Lots of practice. It is important to get to know each kind of helicopter. Merlins handle a lot differently then Blackhawks. If you try to land a Blackhawk exactly the way you would a Merlin, you will die. They are much less responsive.
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Post by Sirsolo »

Dont even bother with the numbers. That's really only usefull for jets.

Choppers work as such:
When landing (most flying for me) Use only the keyboard. It's less sensitive then the mouse. Make sure you're level when landing on level ground, and if need be, press the down arrow to point your nose in the air. The BH lands as such IRL (tail wheel first) But yeah.. Flaring is pwnsome.
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I do find tweaking the numbers has an effect. Really mostly it matters for the Huey since its such a touchy flight model. However if you want to try landing but with perhaps a bit more success the Huey is a good one since those landing struts make landings seem really rough compared to a BH. You can really beat the **** out of the bottom end of a Huey.

Also have you actually flown in a live server? Many people experience severe lag peculiar to online play that doesn't occur in offline local server training.
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PFunk brings up a good point. There are a few servers out there that run the training mod 24/7. The only server that gives away the password for free is allfairgames(dot)com. They have the password on the main page of their website. The server is particularly laggy sometimes, but it is good enough.
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Tartantyco

u gotta learn how to land faster lol
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Can any1 make a video on how to dive in and land? I no the concept, but that doesnt keep me from crashing^^
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Tomato With Two Revolvers Actually wrote:Tartantyco

u gotta learn how to land faster lol
-I think you're confusing flying low with landing. I land where I want to when I want to, efficiently and safely.
.blend wrote:Can any1 make a video on how to dive in and land? I no the concept, but that doesnt keep me from crashing^^
-That will most likely get you and your passengers killed as things don't respond as they should in BF2 and just the speed you get up to in a steep dive and the way any chopper behaves when you try to decelerate makes it extremely hard to land, not to mention the fact that doing so increases the chance of a lag spike which will surely doom the helo. A slow, controlled descent until you reach your target is the best way to do it, attempting to do some l33t maneuver will just lose you an asset and the lives of your passengers.
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Re: Landing a transport chopper

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.blend wrote:Can any1 make a video on how to dive in and land? I no the concept, but that doesnt keep me from crashing^^
here you are.
http://nl.youtube.com/watch?v=pf9YLuL8gYo[/youtube]
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that was awesome blaat
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mat2d2 wrote:Hi guys. I'm new to PR. Only got introduced to it by my flatmate when we were discussing bunny hopping in CoD4 and he mentioned there was a BF2 mod that got rid of this ha. I'm kind of hooked now :D

I was never really any good at flying in BF2 but decided to give it a go in PR as it seems like a fun roll. I got a hold of the training mod and have been practising my flying skills with some of the transport choppers.

I can now take off easy and fly pretty well although I've not had much air time in real games with enemy fire. One thing I can't master is the art of landing.
Even when I know a flat piece of land with no obstructions I can't land a Helo on it without sustaining damage or flipping 9 times out of 10 and the one time I can land it I usually have to hover for 20 or so seconds before it hits the ground(Not very useful if I start to come under fire)

Can you guys offer any tips? At what altitude should I start coming down at and what kind of speed and also what distance should I start my decent. Basicly everything that you could tell me would be helpful :P


(I use the mouse+keyboard to fly btw)
If you can get the chopper level (and close to the ground) just tap S with enough frequency that you don't "stall the engine".
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Re: Landing a transport chopper

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You know, really, after reading and thinking about my own experiences practising with the choppers, you can't tell people what to do, not much. Its all about learning from your own mistakes. For real aircraft you're in schools for months before you get a real crack at it.

In BF2 you can crash dozens of times and be fine cause you learn from every mistake. So crash 50 times and ask yourself why you did it.

For mouse control of a Huey I prefer 8.5 3 3 or 4 4.
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Re: Landing a transport chopper

Post by b_black69 »

good to see a fellow chopper pilot who can do the dive landing. These are the only way to survive in a hot LZ....

The trick is to let the craft naturally pull its nose up as you come near the ground, and tap s. You'll be suprised how much velocity you'll lose just by tapping s, and how the helicopter will right itself on its own.

Also don't be afraid to hit the ground with a lot of horizontal speed, the wheels and sleds dont take damage from sliding. My personal best landing speed is 880kph in a black hawk.
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pilots like blaat, scoththekiller etc are like having a tactical nuke on ur team. Bleedin awesome.
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I don't go for the vertical dive, but the skimming one really isn't that hard.

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