North Korea and the Q5...what happened?

[[=TC=]nuetron]

I am sure that the thought of placing North Korean forces has crossed the minds of PR players at least once or twice...and the minds of PR at least a few times. I am sure tht it has been suggested many times, but why not?
I know that now North Korea will not be put into PR with SO MANY more forces on the way(IDF, Poland, Germany, Russia, etc.) but what made the PR team decide NOT to put North Korea in the fray? I think that North Korean would be very fun in Project Reality and give the game more hours of fun with a new army and new weapons. The British aren't in as many maps as the USMC and you guys are trying to make it so there are at least alot more GB maps. But think of how North Korea would have been a better challenge than just Chinese and some Insurgents.

Personally, (not offense German mod lead) but I think that North Korea would(will) be a way more fun army to play than the German forces. Plus they hate us(U.S.) and if war were declared on China they would be invading from their underground tunnels!
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Q5 Fantan-What happened?
The Fantan was in 0.6 Beta Daquing(or whatever) oilfields and it was very fun! I liked it there...although its armament was not big(only a annon and 4 dumb bombs) it was still a very fun aircraft and if that thing had say, 2 laser guided bombs(and 2 dumb) then it would be even more fun, and even more team work oriented.


*not suggesting the NK force or the Q5 fantan, if I was they would be under suggestions, just asking what happened*

[Maxfragg]

Im sure the Q5 will come again, when a suiting map is there, we really need something like kaskan with china, there it would be nice.

there was a small project to ad taiwan before all this comunity moding started, but is was buried, i think that might have been one reson why we have no north korea,(because 2 asian factions would be enough) and anyways, tankbattles vs north korea would be boring, since they would not have any fuel

also i dont get, why you think german army would not be intresting, they have a lot of stuff you find nowhere else and a assaultrifle with scope and reddot at the same time

[[=TC=]nuetron]

I do not the German community mod will be boring, I just think that a Nort hKorean mod would be more fun....

Plus its not a start from scratch and ask people if you could use their[German] BF2 vehicles and weapons, it would be(as somebody said before about N. Korean forces community mod)
-a reskin of Chinese soldiers
-reskin T62
-reskin BDRM
(thats all that they suggested but what they need is)
-skin PLA soldiers uniforms
-skin NK symbol on BDRM
-skin NK symbol on T62
-skin NM symbol on Q5
-(perhaps)skin NK symbol on Russian MiG29
-skin NK symbol on pickup truck(and commanders truck)

Give the North Koreans the old PLA main weapon, the Ak-47, then the SVD, PKM, and RPG-7v. With the side arm being..... a knife.*teehee*
the Officers would get a knife, the other soldiers would not get a knife, but yeah.
*and the Chinese voices(yes Chinese) would be a place holder for Korean until a Korean speaking person could record it and get the lips to sink*

NORTH KOREAN FORCES!!!!!!!
trust me, if I could mod, I would be on this in a heart beat...If somebody could send me a link to find BF2 modding software LEGAL SOFTWARE!!!!! somewhere where I BUY it, (I got in trouble last time for asking for "free photoshop software" I meant an older free version, but apparently there is no free older version just illegal versions.) And a place where there is a tutorial on how to skin things.. I feel like being able to do stuff(like make NK community mod)...and I will learn over the summer.

[[=TC=]nuetron]

*I did NOT just suggest he North Korean forces, I was just saying what is needed for a Community mod.

[Spaz]

Are you sure that is the vehiles/guns that NK army is using? I could not find anything on it.

PS. I would not want a north korean faction in PR
Also the german army would be a lot more fun to play the north korea

[[=TC=]nuetron]

There are few sources on what the North Korean Peoples Army uses, since there arent any reporters in Korea filming thier exercises and interviewing them....but it is known that they have older tanks liek the T62 and the BDRM, they bought some Q5s from China, and they have (very few) MiG29s.

As far as how much fun NK mod would be against the German mod..
"the German mod would be more fun" taking the mature road... NUH HUH!!!!
But really, that is a big difference in opinion, you(and many others) would like to see Germany in because of thier modern weapons and gear, plus the NATO connections would make them join the war.
I(and many others) would like to see the NKPAG(North Korean Peoples Army Group) in the fray because they would declare war on America(just so they casn have all of Korea under their control) and "aid" China then help China fight America and NATO , until NATO is too weak and then the North Korean onslaught begins and South Korea falls...plus it would be fun to compare a M16A4 to a AK-47, while comparing a M1A2 to a T62.

Just a difference in opinion...and a difference in what we appreciate more.
I personally do not appreciate an army that was founded by a Communist and sole mission is to conquer a nation which is not communist... But I appreciate the fact that they would join the war....plus I have played ALOT of POE2 and BF2 EF and I am not as excited about German forces as I am NKPAG forces.

[fuzzhead]

If someone wants to spend the time and energy on making a north korean faction, no one is stopping them from doing it.

That is how all the other community factions started - a general desire by many players to get another faction into the game. And alot of them are doing great and have made a large amount of content.

They key is getting enough people to help on the project who know what they are doing or are quick learners.

[Spaz]

would be fun to compare a M16A4 to a AK-47

There is fights in PR that is M16A4 vs AK47...


And where did I say that I want the german faction beacuse of there guns are new?

[gclark03]

The North Koreans are not rich, but a lot of their GDP goes to their military. Seriously, do you think that the country with the most heavily defended border on the planet would be too poor to give its infantrymen hunting knives for self-defense, when some Insurgent on Al Basrah can afford one?

[CAS_117]

we need more opposing forces in pr. You can only shoot so many insurgents...

[Tirak]

nuetron;689031']There are few sources on what the North Korean Peoples Army uses, since there arent any reporters in Korea filming thier exercises and interviewing them....but it is known that they have older tanks liek the T62 and the BDRM, they bought some Q5s from China, and they have (very few) MiG29s.

As far as how much fun NK mod would be against the German mod..
"the German mod would be more fun" taking the mature road... NUH HUH!!!!
But really, that is a big difference in opinion, you(and many others) would like to see Germany in because of thier modern weapons and gear, plus the NATO connections would make them join the war.
I(and many others) would like to see the NKPAG(North Korean Peoples Army Group) in the fray because they would declare war on America(just so they casn have all of Korea under their control) and "aid" China then help China fight America and NATO , until NATO is too weak and then the North Korean onslaught begins and South Korea falls...plus it would be fun to compare a M16A4 to a AK-47, while comparing a M1A2 to a T62.

Just a difference in opinion...and a difference in what we appreciate more.
I personally do not appreciate an army that was founded by a Communist and sole mission is to conquer a nation which is not communist... But I appreciate the fact that they would join the war....plus I have played ALOT of POE2 and BF2 EF and I am not as excited about German forces as I am NKPAG forces.

Not to sound like a total jerk, but: Go ahead, have fun and start the North Korean Peoples Army community mod. I'm sure PR is willing to include your mod into it when it is finished, if it meets their standards. Best of luck to you, and you may want to hurry.

[[T]Terranova7]

If you ask me though, North Korea wouldn't be the most interesting faction to put in. They sound like they would play out like some asian militia faction. It might not take the most effort to create such a faction, but still I'd rather see something like the PLA Marines, or even create new scenarios where we can use South American countries (Like Brazil).

Though if North Korea was added, I think South Korea would deserve a spot alongside them. At least South Korea is a bit more interesting in terms of equipment than North Korea.

[[=TC=]nuetron]

"while some insurgents in Basra can afford them"

Well, if you have seen some caches(even some small ones) they are HUGE!!! One Insurgent had several AKs, 2 RPGs and a couple other automatic weapons.
That would depend on the wealth and willingness to spend money on wepons to kill the evil invaders that are trying to modernize us and keep us farther from Allah!
*infidels*

VS.

The North Korean Peoples Army Group which has little armament, they spend alot of money on their military because their army is the 6th largest in the world....that ALOT of people to give an AK47, a knife, grenades, and a field dressing.
or they would just get an AK, and a shovel.
That is much easier to spend money on every soldier when you have enough for every soldier...thats why the USMC(and other conventional armys) have alot of gear, the United States of America spends 47% of the worlds military spendature.

"PLA Marines would be interesting"
Ya, they would....that sounds cool, and easier to make.

[gclark03]

Why wouldn't the North Koreans be using the QBZ series, or at least some Chinese clone of anything but the AK series?

[eggman]

NK would be a bit tough to do... they wouldn't stand much of a chance against a conventional army because their biggest threat is stuff that is outside the scope of Project Reality (global thermo nuclear terrorism and an insane leader).

From a Combined Arms perspective.. I don't think they would be that interesting.. it'd be like a shoddy version of the PLA and/or an upgraded version of the Militia faction.

One of the ideas we tossed around for another project (when we were thinking about ET:QW) was to have an Allied SF force going up against a North Korean SF force. That might be interesting, because like most nations they do have some well trained / equipped special forces; but as far as conventional military forces go my understanding is their equipment is quite outdated since the collapse of the soviet regime.

[azn_chopsticks_boi]

Lol, I did suggested the North Korean a long time ago
https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f18-pr ... rmies.html

Anyways, the North Korean would basically be reskining everything, unless you want to make the P'okpoong-Ho or Ch'ŏnma-ho

Still would like to see them in the game, maybe a mix of Ak-47 and Ak-74M?

[billdan]

We definately need more Opposing forces/"bad guys", though probably not NK

Anyone ever played America's Army? The game had "Special Forces" maps in addition to infantry maps. I would love to see different SOF groups from the existing factions go at it with different gamemodes in different maps--> "Project Reality: Special Forces" except far better than the EA/Dice expansion pack

Army Rangers seizing a MEC airfield at night

Xtract with SAS protecting a VIP against Al-Qaeda or Militia

MEC Commandos raiding a USMC HQ

Green Berets collecting intel and hunting Taliban leaders in the mountains of Afghanistan

or even SOF vs SOF situations like a PLA Recon element in the jungle attempting to evade a SBS unit dispatched to counter them

and a ton of other possibilities

would take a HUGE amount of work though, and i would
rather see the "Conventional" factions get near-perfected before serious consideration of SF

[PRC_Heavy_Z]

Well, For "opposing factions" PLAN Marines would be fairly easy to make compared to NK or SF factions because for the most part they need a Ocean camo re-skin and add amphibious assault vehicles such as ZBD2000 IFV's and transport ships.

Also, the since the team1/team2 coding problem has been solve, why don't we have the Russians fighting the west along with the Chinese?... Oh wait, it is MUCH more realistic to have Russians fighting the Chinese who are at war in game with NATO.

[charliegrs]

i personally think a NK op force would be awesome and pretty realistic. i just think it wouldnt work in the conventional sense in PR. for example,
1. the NKs have a HUGE army with lots of old crappy gear. how can you simulate the numerical advantage in PR? perhaps {and i dont even know if this is possible} give the NKs a much shorter spawn time. the more NKs spawning, the more it feels like they are a giant army.

2.same goes for NK tanks, yes they are old and no match for modern tanks like abrams, but they have TONS of them, so in a PR map you could give the NK side double the amount of tanks to offset their crappiness. a reskin of the already existing t-62 and brdm would be great.

3. to whoever said give the NKs weapons like AKs, PKMs and RPGS, thats totally correct, the nk army only has older soviet weaponry, most of which is already in game, so it would be good to give them RPKs and SVDs etc and aside from the sniper nothing scoped {too bad we dont have RPDs }

4. one downside is a simple re-skin of the PLA soldier wouldnt be right at all, the PLA soldier has muchh more modern gear than a NK soldier, like body armor and the kevlar helmets. unfortuneatly it would require a new model, and thats probably what will keep us from getting a NK side until someone takes on the challenge of making the models.