MEC Speculation

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-03-10 11:17

There are far too many countries on that axis list that are now friendly to the West and heavily rely on the West, and vice versa with regards to oil.

The Saudis, Pakistani's and Omanis are Western Allies. Theres a reason why we gave Challengers to the Omanis

But the others sound plausible

Maj.b00bz · Post by **Maj.b00bz** » 2006-03-10 16:05

00SoldierofFortune00 wrote:The Russians did crank out something better than the AK-74 which is teh AN-94. I asked if this game could be implimented in teh game before for the MEC since they never get anything and it would be a good special forces weapon because of it is limited to special operation forces such as the Spetsnaz due to cost in Russia.

http://world.guns.ru/assault/as08-e.htm

Geezus, I just read the arcticle. Better than the AK-74? It sounds like a comlpicated POS if you ask me. The M16 suffered for a long time under the same complication factor until they refined it with a chrome chamber, heavier barrel and forward assist.

From the article:

As soon as the fired bullet passed the gas port, the traditional gas operated action begins. Since the bolt group is relatively light and the amount of the gas pressure is carefully calculated, the bolt group rapidly goes back, unlocking the barrel, extracting and ejecting the spent case. Due to the recoil impulse, the barrel receiver assembly begins to recoil inside the gun housing, compressing the recoil spring. At the same time, the cartridge rammer quickly strips the next cartridge from the magazine and introduces it into the feedway. The bolt group, under the influence of its main spring and the return buffer spring, rapidly goes forward, chambering the second round from the feedway.......

It goes on like this for another paragraph and ends like this.......

I will not describe the design and the action of the trigger system of the AN-94, since it is way too complicated to be explained in few words.

Anything that complicated can only be reserved for the most elite and disciplined of troops. It will be an exotic weapon with limited field use. Good for SpecOps but the grunt on the field will need something hardier. I don't see a huge market like this for anyone outside Russia as ther are better designs. Double shot action or not, it seems too complicated for average field use.

Braddock096 · Post by **Braddock096** » 2006-03-10 16:17

Totally. Even if it's "squaddie proof" it'll still get broken. Something that complicated would never be operating at maximum efficiency with regular troops in the field.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-10 17:22

Figisaacnewton wrote: OPEC raises oil prices by , oh lets say, double, for the 'offending' western powers, but not for russia or china.

So why should the west fund Hamas... Mabey the MEC should ask China to give money?

It should be more like;
USA (As Leader the war)
UK (As the Second leader, like in Iraq today)
South Africa (Stops any african fraction from becomeing involved as usual)
France (Retreats)
Germany, Italy, Spain, Greece and Sweeden (Fund the UK and US)
They are the essential protection force for Israil, India, South Korea and Pakistan who all become targets of the MEC/PLA. Becomeing the 'WEF' Western Expeditionary Force.

North Korea (Joins China and is under ultimate comand of China)
Iran (Leads the MEC)
Palastinia, Turkey, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Turkmekistan, Afganistan and Somalia all kick out there goverments and become MEC with Iran as the captital state.
Mongolia (Joins China too)

Every Islamic person who lives in any western country deports to Iran (Exsept the ones who feel more western than anythink else) And terrorists begin to take lives. They all unite uder Islam and wish to finaly kill all infidels.

00SoldierofFortune00 · Post by **00SoldierofFortune00** » 2006-03-10 19:43

They had a piece on it on the history channel and it is quite a nice gun, but I see where you are coming from. The MEC just need another weapon besides the AKs though. The G3 is another good weapon to load them out with since middle eastern nations do use it. Give it an aimpoint or scope and then you have a weapon for a marksman or sniper.

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-03-10 21:55

When I speak of a "personality" for the MEC. I don't mean that terrorist/suicide bombings type of warfare. I think the MEC are professional in a way, but just how "good" are they in terms of moral rights and wrongs. What I'm trying to say is that are they the "Nazis" of the middle-east? Or a some sort of the "Roman Republic" of the people.

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-03-11 12:44

Terranova wrote:When I speak of a "personality" for the MEC. I don't mean that terrorist/suicide bombings type of warfare. I think the MEC are professional in a way, but just how "good" are they in terms of moral rights and wrongs. What I'm trying to say is that are they the "Nazis" of the middle-east? Or a some sort of the "Roman Republic" of the people.

theres no need for that, as theres arguments to suggest Western governments are facist to an extent. We've done questionable immoral stuff and so have middle eastern nations. It should be purely over Oil IMO

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-11 14:28

Peter-SAS wrote:theres no need for that, as theres arguments to suggest Western governments are facist to an extent. We've done questionable immoral stuff and so have middle eastern nations. It should be purely over Oil IMO

But we dont send videos of cutting off peoples heads to them in the name of peace do we? Imagen if you were captured and a video of your head was sent back to be viewed by your family!

lonelyjew · Post by **lonelyjew** » 2006-03-11 14:47

My guess to this is that the MEC would be pretty professional. They wouldn't cut off peoples heads for fear of the USMC's full force. Honestly, I didn't think of this as the next world war, more like a few battles to show the MEC we don't mess around.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-11 14:51

lonelyjew wrote:My guess to this is that the MEC would be pretty professional. They wouldn't cut off peoples heads for fear of the USMC's full force. Honestly, I didn't think of this as the next world war, more like a few battles to show the MEC we don't mess around.

Is it better to think that they are profetional but they still are savage, they take no prisoners.

Post by **Fullforce** » 2006-03-11 15:03

lonelyjew wrote:My guess to this is that the MEC would be pretty professional. They wouldn't cut off peoples heads for fear of the USMC's full force. Honestly, I didn't think of this as the next world war, more like a few battles to show the MEC we don't mess around.

I totally agree

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-03-11 15:33

I would suggest that they are portrayed as professionals to stay away from any political (or otherwise) stereotypes.

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-03-11 16:01

Pence wrote:But we dont send videos of cutting off peoples heads to them in the name of peace do we? Imagen if you were captured and a video of your head was sent back to be viewed by your family!

what on earth did that have to do with Middle Eastern millitaries? Perhaps some governments like Iran and Syria are funding a providing the insurgents with weaponary, just like the US armed the afgani insurgency against the Russians

MEC are not terrorists, they are a supposedly proffesional army. Why else do they have body armour and proper millitary uniforms?

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-03-11 16:09

Your still not getting the question. Are the MEC the kinda of people who torture their POWS for information. Just because they are well-organized and have a solid infrastructure does not mean they care about civilian deaths. I'm saying if some citizen under the MEC decided to speak out against their actions, would they be allowed to speak, or shot on sight? If the war was simply over oil then it would end up being more costly to the U.K and U.S, especially against both the MEC and China.

Post by **BrokenArrow** » 2006-03-11 16:19

I don't really think there is a basis for speculating on this? Unless PR gets into a storyline.

torio · Post by **torio** » 2006-03-11 18:52

The question you should ask youself is if the Americans torture their warprisoners.

And what do this have to do with PR anyway? You don't have some kind of capture and torture mode.

Braddock096 · Post by **Braddock096** » 2006-03-11 18:54

Lol, nice one Torio. Thats the question.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-11 19:04

Peter-SAS wrote:what on earth did that have to do with Middle Eastern millitaries? Perhaps some governments like Iran and Syria are funding a providing the insurgents with weaponary, just like the US armed the afgani insurgency against the Russians

MEC are not terrorists, they are a supposedly proffesional army. Why else do they have body armour and proper millitary uniforms?

Dont forget they come from the middle east!
Anybody can upgrade there arsanal and still be the savages they are.

00SoldierofFortune00 · Post by **00SoldierofFortune00** » 2006-03-11 19:47

Are you suggesting they are savage because they are middle eastern? Too much sterotyping oging on here just because a few people have seen the videos of "Radical Islamist Fundimentalist", the proper term for the terrorist the US is fighting, beheading and decapitating people. America is just as vicious, but it doesn't get portraded because they are the good guys. Ever see that video of the American killing a wounded insurgent in the mosque? You can say that there is a difference between beheading someone and just shooting them, but they all end up dead in the end and that is war

MEC are just as professional in the game as the US and you can tell this by their gear, association of Middle Eastern nations for one, and other things. It is pretty sad that people would say that they would resort to beheading and other things which are sterotypical of Muslims and Middle Easterners. Why can't they interrogate like the US? Not all Middle Eastern nations behead, but it is portrayed that all Muslims behead now.

O, and if you want to talk about professional, Nazi Germany were some of the best professionals out there during WW2. They knew how to fight and win their battles quickly and fiercely. That is a big difference between being professional and brutal or unethical, which is what torture really is.

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-03-11 19:54

00SoldierofFortune00 wrote: O, and if you want to talk about professional, Nazi Germany were some of the best professionals out there during WW2. They knew how to fight and win their battles quickly and fiercely. That is a big difference between being professional and brutal or unethical, which is what torture really is.

Thats what I'm trying to ask? Is the MEC simular to the Nazi Germany style of warfare? Anyhow I think getting into a storyline to the game is something tha PR should look into. Its funny how the fictious MEC, China and United States (as well as U.K) are fighting for no apparent reason.