Hello and Could you help an old Desert Combat Veteran adapt to this mod?

[JasonG]

Hi all,

I'm a noob to PR but a veteran BF 1942 and Desert Combat guy. I have always wished for BF 2 to be more realistic and stumbled across the mod a few days ago.

I realized quicly that being an ace pilot and chopper jock in DC means nothing in PR. I always utilized the keyboard to fly in DC and it appears the controls were idenitical in PR but I instantly crashed. Unfortunately I'm a working adult and dad so I dont have a ton of time to read endless threads but I tried to find something and didn't see much. I would be honored and humbled if someone could give me a little heads up on if a joystick is required or any other tips. It's funny becuase I took about 11 hours of helicopter flight training and am hover certified but it didn't help me in game.

Thanks to any who reply and I hope to get around the game and forum more in the future.

[Oldirti]

Hi there Jason, welcome to the forums.

Remember to let your chopper rev up for about 1 minute. After that just try and take off straight, and it should be close to Desert combat. I use my keyboard too, and i find it very nice and stable.

[Drastiq]

I would be honored and humbled if someone could give me a little heads up on if a joystick is required or any other tips. the future.

There is no need for a joystick in PR if you want to fly a helicopter. Let the bird to get engine warmed up so to say and after that you are of the ground. Time is that 45 secs - 60 secs. Littlebird is the easiest thing to fly but that is just my opinion. Rest of the choppers seem to have a bit of their own will so to speak.

If you are not on a helipad or road (totally flat area) do not land. Never. Just hover a bit off the ground. In Project Reality the choppers really love to tip over if you land on non-flat ground. As a tip, fly as low as possible when transporting and use the terrain / trees / etc. etc. as your cover.

If you are in attack helo, then I would say fly high but if you check youtube for Project Reality attack chopper vids you will get the idea. I am just a transport guy <:

PS. Landing troops to safe LZ to make them walk 2 more minutes for objective is way more reasonable than landing too close and get killed with full bird. Then waiting for 5 minutes for it to respawn and your side to loose tickets with the killed.

[Rhino]

Welcome. If you want to fly in PR you really need a joystick, keyboard and mouse just wont cut it for the speeds these things go at

Now if you want me to recommend a stick to you, Saitek by far make the best sticks around, I own a Saitek X52 and have for around 2 or 3 years now and its simply a joy to fly with

PC Gaming - PC Joysticks - Flight Sticks

Thou the X52 is very expensive and is quite OTT for the needs of PR so something like a Cyborg Evo is probably a better choice, I know many ppl that have one and its a real bargain for the money! Cyborg evo Joystick

There is also a small flight training video for jets you can find here, think there are some for choppers too: YouTube - Project Reality Flight Training

Hope that helps

[Drastiq]

Welcome. If you want to fly in PR you really need a joystick, keyboard and mouse just wont cut it for the speeds these things go at

Rhino you know that is not true if we are talking about choppers that can be controlled totally with "just" keyboard and mouse. Jets are different thing. It is different to have an opinion that is it easier or not but to state if they are essential or not. I have tried for quite a time and I still prefer to fly choppers with good ol' combo of keys and rat.

[Alex6714]

Agree on the joystick, not necessary, but it owns. Saitek X52 ftw

[MadTommy]

joystick for jets.. need an axis for the throttle

keyboard & mouse for choppers

[ArmedDrunk&Angry]

One little correction.
Aircraft have a 20min spawn on many maps.

Other details.....
Kits'
CO assets

Check the manual that comes with the DL .... lots of little details as to when and where you can get certain weapons.
There are practice maps that you can DL.
Helos are VERY different in behavior IMHO and you should practice with them before joining a server.
If you can fly well in vanila then you can easily learn to fly in PR but it is a new skill.
Helos are very vulnerable and as mentioned, you do not want to try to land in a contested area.
Welcome and good luck.

[Rhino]

Rhino you know that is not true if we are talking about choppers that can be controlled totally with "just" keyboard and mouse. Jets are different thing. It is different to have an opinion that is it easier or not but to state if they are essential or not. I have tried for quite a time and I still prefer to fly choppers with good ol' combo of keys and rat.

I was more referring to jets, If I'm flying choppers for a long time like doing constant transport/supply runs with a transport chopper then I will use my stick but for the odd flight I normally just stick to keyboard as its not worth dragging that huge stick off my speaker

But ye if you want to fly jets, you will not live with a mouse/keyboard, you might be able to get off the ground, turn in the air etc but as soon as you get into combat you are screwed without a stick.

[Drav]

To learn to fly the choppers I'd go to Kashan and learn in the blackhawks, as they are the most forgiving imo. If you have flown helicopters before then differences will be that they do not slide around on the skids well at all, so takeoffs are a little different. An easy way to take off once warmed up is to jump the helicopter into the air. Unlike RL where you go light on the skids then lift off gently, the skids in PR have a tendancy to stick, especially when first taking off. Therefore its its sometimes better to give a little more power and get the thing up then risk a rollover. Landings are much the same as rl. As little lateral movement as possible, landing with forward speed is fine.

Other differences are the helos generally accelerate and slow down MUCH faster than their real life counterparts, and are at their most unstable when trying to do either very quickly.

Quick progression list in my opinion.

Blackhawk: forgiving to hover, good to learn on.
Merlin: Same as the blackhawk, lovely easy helicopter to fly if you dont get any lag
LB: Twitchy, skids can sometimes catch on first take off. Very manoeverable
Huey: Very sensitive, most difficult to fly but very rewarding.

Good luck.

[Alex6714]

Blackhawk: forgiving to hover, good to learn on.
Merlin: Same as the blackhawk, lovely easy helicopter to fly if you dont get any lag
LB: Twitchy, skids can sometimes catch on first take off. Very manoeverable
Huey: Very sensitive, most difficult to fly but very rewarding.

Good luck.

Mmm, I disagree really.

Blackhawk: Very unforgiving, goes more or less where it wants to on its own and has a thing for deadly banks...

The others true though really, although, the huey must be my favourite. Nice conrols (if not the suicidal dive) best looks and best sound ever.

[PFunk]

In my experience the Huey is actually the easiest to fly, once you get used to it. The BH is slow and as such the sudden drift is much easier to correct for but its also annoying to try and do hard fast precise maneuvers with it.

If you learn with the Huey you'll probably find the BH annoying with how much it doesn't respond. With the Huey you can practically skid into a landing at full throttle, once you learn it. I'd rather have a Huey in a hot LZ than anything else just for how easy it is to fly low and accurate.

[Waaah_Wah]

But ye if you want to fly jets, you will not live with a mouse/keyboard, you might be able to get off the ground, turn in the air etc but as soon as you get into combat you are screwed without a stick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eBGIQ7ZuuiU[/youtube]

You can fly just fine with mouse & KB. Its not that hard if you turn your sensitivity up a bit

[CodeRedFox]

YO how many times are we going to go back and forth on mouse vs joystick thing, no need to rebuttal every time...really

JasonG, First welcome fellow DC player, wow haven't played that in a while, all I can say about flying in PR is get on a private server (You'll be amazed with the amount of help you'll get from this comminuity) thats has noob training or just train locally.

In PR jets and helicopter are not suppose to be easy to fly or easy to pick up, hence the need to practice. Try just the mouse and try just a joystick everyone has there preferences...as you can see.

There is also a minimod to PR that allows you to fly everything, kinda an armory testing area. I'll go find the link for you!

Also you could try the SP version of PR : PR Single Player

PR will find will fill all your DC needs. PR is what we all wanted DC to be. Have a great time!

[billdan]

hmm i used to be very, very good at bf1942 DC.

just read the manuel and squad up with some experienced SLs for a while and you should be fine, really.

actually, contrary to what coderedfox mentioned, PR is not what we all wanted DC to be. I did not like DC:R or DCX; I loved DC for the pure fun of it. I played AA for realism.

Who says you can't like both arcady AND realistic FPS games?

[agentscar]

LOL..No Rhino...The "Logitech Extreme 3D Pro" Joystick is the best,cuz it's the one I have and it is awesome,lol. jk

lol.

[Drastiq]

I don't like repeating myself and this joystick vs. KB/M issue is retarded. The man was asking in his first post that does he need a joystick to utilize the choppers and not just crash them first thing off the ground. He was replied no and people posted up their opinions about how different chopper act. Other stuff here is just OT.

[Wh1tE_Dw4rF]

There is also a minimod to PR that allows you to fly everything, kinda an armory testing area. I'll go find the link for you!

This is the mod CoderedFox was refering to: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f66-co ... -mode.html

Basicly has modified maps with loads of helis, jets with short spawntime. Some armor placed on the map for target practice.

[Mongolian_dude]

I stick to it:

Mastering and using all three will allow you to unlock your limitless capabilities, young warrior

Pure KB, Mouse and KB and Joystick all have their strengths and weaknesses.
I, being a complete technical cheap-skate, dont have a joystick, and use mostly pure KB, but throw in mouse and KB for things that need precise messure.

Practice with something more simple, like the littlebird to learn.
Stay away from the attack choppers, because they usually require the most experience and teamwork.

-remember to wait at least 30 seconds for the rotar warm up time.

-Keep it simple. Assend, hover, land. Then branch out.

-Practicing with assets in a full server will probably not work well for your fan base.

-Choppers are complex machines and alot can go wrong. Getting shot up can garuentee you it will.

-Places of repair/rearm are the usual: Carrier, helipad etc. Command posts(AKA, UAV trailer) also repairs and rearms.

-Pay attention to your instruments too. Choppers move quicker in PR, which means you will rise and fall faster.

-Your minimap can tell you some useful info. Zoom in with the N key can help you land, by letting you know whats behind you.

-Larger transport/utility choppers often carry ammo crates. Secondary fire deploys it.

-Choppers have flares and lots of them. However, after you use half-a-dozen, there will be a LONG reload time.

-Good luck

...mongol...