New Force Suggestion: Russia

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 15:14

Basically BF2 is already filled with Russian weapons. What I'm suggesting is that a new team is crated for Russia, copy and paste most of the weapons from the MEC side and then fill in all the gaps like player models ect.

By doing this you would be able to add a few more weapons in, and expand the game even more. Also this would allow for many different types of maps to be introduced into the mod. Again a new topic has sprung up about snow maps. Now you ain't going to find a Arab MEC guy in the middle of the arctic, and you ain't going to find a chines man there either.

But Russia for most of the time is full of snow, other vegetation, and new types of maps!

What do you all think?

EDIT: Weapons list:

Rhino's post below wrote:Russian Weapons from BF2:

Guns:
AK-101 (with & without GL), Russian Assault Rifle
AK-47 (with & without GL), another Russian Assault Rifle (abit old for the modern russian army)
RPK, Russian Support Weapon
PKM, Another Russian Support Weapon
SVD, Russian Sniper rifle
AKS-74U, Russian Carbine
Saiga 12, Russian Shotgun
MP - 444, Russian Pistol
PP-19, Russian SMG

Tanks and land vechiles
T-90, Russian MBT
BTR-90, Russian APC
Tunguska M1 low-lev AA, Russian AA Vachel
Vodnik, Russian Heavy Jeep

Air
MiG-29 Fulcrum, Russian Fighter
SU-34 Flanker, Russian Light Bomber
Mi-28 Havok, Russian Attack Chopper
Mi-17, Russian Multi-Mission Helicopter (transport chopper)

Weapons Missing from BF2

Guns
AT weapons, could make a RPG-7

Land Vechiles
Fast attack car but i didnt do alot of research into the FAV so it could be russian.

Weapons that could be made ontop

Alot!

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-03-17 15:24

Great idea !

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-03-17 15:28

the more, the better. Though its more work for the Devs, and I'd rarther they focus on what they are already planning, along with further gameplay adjustments

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 15:32

Peter-SAS wrote:the more, the better. Though its more work for the Devs, and I'd rarther they focus on what they are already planning, along with further gameplay adjustments

Yep but thats the point. It wouldnt take much to put Russia in the picture than it would for the brits as most of it is a copy and paste from the MEC weapons and adding in new player skins (and models if needed, think a new helmet could do and small stuff like that) then you basicly have a new army, and then its the job of the mappers to make the maps and SNOW HERE WE COME!

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-03-17 15:33

i think it would be great we could have them to go with the us and UK (allies) and they could be in border clashes with the chinese or even against the MEC.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 15:46

Hitperson wrote:i think it would be great we could have them to go with the us and UK (allies) and they could be in border clashes with the chinese or even against the MEC.

I would prefer if Russia was a enmy of the US and UK. Would mean much funner games. Was in POE1.

da.SPAWN · Post by **da.SPAWN** » 2006-03-17 15:58

the EU is allready in the game

Post by **Hitperson** » 2006-03-17 16:07

how??

i don't like **** versions.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-17 16:09

'[R-CON wrote:Rhino']I would prefer if Russia was a enmy of the US and UK. Would mean much funner games. Was in POE1.

Why does the UK have to side with the US? Mabey Hong Kong (Ex-British city) was abused by the Americans?

Britian and China have been close even dureing the Cold war.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 16:13

Russian Weapons from BF2:

Guns:
AK-101 (with & without GL), Russian Assault Rifle
AK-47 (with & without GL), another Russian Assault Rifle (abit old for the modern russian army)
RPK, Russian Support Weapon
PKM, Another Russian Support Weapon
SVD, Russian Sniper rifle
AKS-74U, Russian Carbine
Saiga 12, Russian Shotgun
MP - 444, Russian Pistol
PP-19, Russian SMG

Tanks and land vechiles
T-90, Russian MBT
BTR-90, Russian APC
Tunguska M1 low-lev AA, Russian AA Vachel
Vodnik, Russian Heavy Jeep

Air
MiG-29 Fulcrum, Russian Fighter
SU-34 Flanker, Russian Light Bomber
Mi-28 Havok, Russian Attack Chopper
Mi-17, Russian Multi-Mission Helicopter (transport chopper)

Weapons Missing from BF2

Guns
AT weapons, could make a RPG-7

Land Vechiles
Fast attack car but i didnt do alot of research into the FAV so it could be russian.

Weapons that could be made ontop

Alot!

Im sure alot of the weapons above the modern russina army dont use them so they will probaly need to be reaplced with somthing new intime. I aklso might have missed some weapons that aint in BF2 that are russian but i dont think i did. Things like the knife, C4 and nades are all the same for every side.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 16:14

Pence wrote:Why does the UK have to side with the US? Mabey Hong Kong (Ex-British city) was abused by the Americans?

Britian and China have been close even dureing the Cold war.

lol, WW1 and WW2.

Peter-SAS · Post by **Peter-SAS** » 2006-03-17 17:01

da.SPAWN wrote:the EU is allready in the game

Russia isn't in the EU

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 17:07

Peter-SAS wrote:
da.SPAWN wrote:the EU is allready in the game
Russia isn't in the EU

LMAO!

da.SPAWN · Post by **da.SPAWN** » 2006-03-17 17:42

yes it is funny

but what i mean is PR could use the EU, not that Russia is in the EU (at least not now)

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 17:49

EA have done a shitty job on the weapons they have made. PRs SA80 and L96 are 10x better quility than whats in that booster pack.

Post by **eggman** » 2006-03-17 18:07

I think this is a great idea... seems like very low hanging fruit. In terms of combat equipment... there'd be a bit more to it in that...

1. skins in 2 variants (desert and woodland, soldiers and vehicles)
2. voice overs (not critical)

...would need to be done.

but more work around mapping would be the bulk of the effort. We'd need new statics at some point... fighting against Russians would lead you to believe you are going to see some Russian style architecture.

We're a very small team in comparison to some of the other mods out there... so we have to make sure we don't bite off more than we can chew.

That said, we're trying to bring on more folks to help with stuff like this.

egg

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 18:10

Im going to see if i can get you guys a new skinner

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-17 18:10

'[R-CON wrote:Rhino']EA have done a shitty job on the weapons they have made. PRs SA80 and L96 are 10x better quility than whats in that booster pack.

We alwase complain about DICE and EA but we are better off with them than a team like IW/Activision. COD2 still hasent had a pach yet >_<

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 18:20

Pence wrote:We alwase complain about DICE and EA but we are better off with them than a team like IW/Activision. COD2 still hasent had a pach yet >_<

I dont play COD2 but is there any bugs or anything that need to be patched is the question? normal activision do alot of testing on there prodcuts (unlike EA) so there are hardly any bugs when its released.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-17 18:26

'[R-CON wrote:Rhino']I dont play COD2 but is there any bugs or anything that need to be patched is the question? normal activision do alot of testing on there prodcuts (unlike EA) so there are hardly any bugs when its released.

HELL NO, There are more issues that need to be adressed than there ever will be on BF2! It should have never gottern through testing.

Issues like you can shoot trough walls, Invisable obsticals, lessened gameplay, no anti-cheat, a broken server filter, tecnical issues, no editing tools - to name a few.