Weapon Bayonets

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-03-16 22:17

Maybe we could have Weapon Bayonets and a Secondary fire mode ?

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-16 22:18

lol, this aint WW1

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-03-16 22:20

lol but the army still use bayonets !

rofflesnlols · Post by **rofflesnlols** » 2006-03-16 22:25

Really...?
Ohhh yeah they do, but they generaly get used as basic knifes anyway, i think it's pretty rare to see a soldier running foreward with his bayonet thrust menacingly infront of him

Wonder · Post by **Wonder** » 2006-03-17 06:32

Oh yeah?

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-03-17 08:52

Haha ! I think we shud have baynets on the M4/AK-74/M14...

Post by **NikovK** » 2006-03-17 09:00

I'd love to see bayonets. I'm always more aggressive going around corners and clearing rooms when I've got eight inches of steel at the end of my rifle. And as you can see, its great non-lethal crowd control! Someone steps over the line, stick them in the arm or leg. Intense pain, a lifethreatening wound if untreated, and blood all over the place. But assuming he knows how to tie a shirt around it, no messy civilian casualties.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-17 09:00

"lol, this aint WW1"
Klapperkop fort...

The SA80 has a strange bayonet.

Post by **NikovK** » 2006-03-17 09:07

A bayonet on a bullpup rifle makes no sense to me anyway.

Oh, and in case you needed a new reason to argue over weapons, an M-16 with a bayonet is better than a SA80 series with a bayonet. Hands down, no questions.

Amercians have better bayonets than the British! Take THAT, Cornwallis!

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-03-17 09:23

Yabo, No contest there but a bayonet is not only to stab people with, in close quaters someone could try grabbing your rifle...

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-03-17 11:30

so your a suggesting replacing the knife with a bayonet for some classes? It could work but then again....

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-03-17 14:16

Pence wrote:Yabo, No contest there but a bayonet is not only to stab people with, in close quaters someone could try grabbing your rifle...

Then if they do that u pull the triggar and empty a mag into the guy

But yea, some classes shud still keep the Knife while others are replaced by a Bayonet !. I love Bayonets !!!! it'll make the game more intresting, u can act out The Battle Of Midway when playing PLA VS USMC !!

rofflesnlols · Post by **rofflesnlols** » 2006-03-17 19:34

Darth.Skyline wrote: But yea, some classes shud still keep the Knife while others are replaced by a Bayonet !. I love Bayonets !!!! it'll make the game more intresting, u can act out The Battle Of Midway when playing PLA VS USMC !!

NO! your crazy! i hate you crazy people! so damn crazy with your crazyfied new ideas! I think bayonets would well...bring away...well i can't say reality, obviously..cos bayonets r used today...but...ahhhh no! <---- now thats an argument! cmon people you know what i mean, it would be crazy! ( in a bad crazy way)

You should go make a bayonet mod... now shoo with your crazy ideas, CRAZY!

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-03-18 05:50

allow the knife's secondary fire to attach it to the rifle

Pantera · Post by **Pantera** » 2006-03-18 10:06

rofflesnlols wrote:NO! your crazy! i hate you crazy people! so damn crazy with your crazyfied new ideas! I think bayonets would well...bring away...well i can't say reality, obviously..cos bayonets r used today...but...ahhhh no! <---- now thats an argument! cmon people you know what i mean, it would be crazy! ( in a bad crazy way)
You should go make a bayonet mod... now shoo with your crazy ideas, CRAZY!

ROLF ! Im CraZy but not MentAl !! i will make that mod once i learn where to get Maya !!

Infantrigel · Post by **Infantrigel** » 2006-03-18 10:42

I do not think that in the time of assault rifles bajonetts have a use, because if it comes to close quater combat you would rather attack him with a melee attack like a barrelblow (i hope you know what i mean.) than putting my bajonett on which would take me a lot of time.

Post by **NikovK** » 2006-03-18 11:25

Thats why you fix bayonets before getting into close quarters, and the guy with a spear is going to beat your club every time.

Infantrigel · Post by **Infantrigel** » 2006-03-18 11:46

'[R-CON wrote:NikovK']Thats why you fix bayonets before getting into close quarters, and the guy with a spear is going to beat your club every time.

Yeah but you need no bayonet, make the same move without the little knife in front and your enemy is going down too. Thas what i meant with barrelblow (dont know if this word exists

)

Thats not much of a bayonet

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-03-18 14:36

On a similar topic of crazy ideas : why not add civilians. It would be absolute chaos! Yu would have to create more building with indoors for them to hide in and it wold require a huge CPU but on the other hand it would be orginal and real.
Another MASSIVE POINT: if yu are tryin to make a reality mod you have to carefull not to make one part really realistic but leave another the same old arcadness. Yu can make small change to the guns but any large changes should be cover almost every aspect of that area.
P.s. i am in full support of long sharp pointy metal poles on the end of weapons and while yu are at that can i have a bow and arrow for stealth kills and arrows with high explosive tips for use as mini artilery!

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-03-18 21:26

Infantrigel wrote:I do not think that in the time of assault rifles bajonetts have a use, because if it comes to close quater combat you would rather attack him with a melee attack like a barrelblow (i hope you know what i mean.) than putting my bajonett on which would take me a lot of time.

Bayonets ended up being used by Marines assaulting positions outside of Baghdad during the invasion. British forces also used them for counter-ambush against insurgents last year, as shown in this article posted by Braddock in the last thread on close combat.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh ... nvc218.xml

They are also still used in riot control formations, as shown in the photo posted by Wonder (welcome aboard, bud

), which I had been trying to find for the last thread on this subject. Fixed-bayonets are still a useful close-combat weapon.

As for the "barrelblow," that might work, but a buttstroke might be more effective since that's the more massive end of the rifle. Also, that maneuver may damage your front sight post.

This having been said, we do wish to diversify the types of close-combat weapons available in PR, to include fixed bayonets (along with rifle buttstrokes as an alternate fire option) and entrenching tools, but that's for a later date.