Jdam OR carpet bombs

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Conman51
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Jdam OR carpet bombs

Post by Conman51 »

i saw how b 52 were used in vietnam, carpet bombing, idk if carpet bomibing is still used w/ b 52s but iwas think y not make it a area attack where it would require a coomander to approve the jdam or carpet bombing where if he uses teh carpet bomibng he cat use teh jdam

the way it would be used is that a SL would put a lasewr on a target and then he would set another one then ask for permision fromm comm...then a b52 would fly overgead and drop bombs from the first laser to like idk 300m towrds the second one taht way the SL can direct the carpet bomb...but once u use the carpet bomb u now have to wait a hour for the jdam or carpet bomb..and i don5t think it will be biased towards the americans because im sure other countries also have supermassive giant bomb dropping planes that can carpet bomb to


talk bout it...


you wouldnt even have to make a model for the b52 cuz they fly so high u wouldnt b able to see them..just carpet bomb effect and sound of b52 engines (maybe idk if u can hear b52 from the ground)
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Conman51
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Re: Jdam OR carpet bombs

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yes...


not exactly guide it...but direct it..like choose the direction teh plane comes from like come in from SW and drop bombs on blank point and go NE
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carpet bombs are being banned at the moment.
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Conman51
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[R-DEV]Rhino wrote:carpet bombs are being banned at the moment.
eh i read a news article on taht too BUT!!!!!...i think your confused..their banning cluster bombs -one bomb many bomblets

im talking bout many bombs hitting a small area..basicly same effect...but lets say in a time of TOTAL WAR wouldnt they legalize carpet bombs???
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sorry i read cluster bombs for some reason eheh, ye carpet bombing is still allow i would have thought.
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[T]Terranova7
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Carpet bombing would be sort of overkill... and not to mention improperly used. I don't believe soldiers call in air support from a B-52 to assist them in a firefight. Carpet Bombing is more of a strategic asset. The kinda thing used to take out key structures and what not that are probably behind enemy lines.
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'[T wrote:Terranova7;722960']Carpet bombing would be sort of overkill... and not to mention improperly used. I don't believe soldiers call in air support from a B-52 to assist them in a firefight. Carpet Bombing is more of a strategic asset. The kinda thing used to take out key structures and what not that are probably behind enemy lines.
i kinda agree..but not much i dont think it will be impropoly used because it only comes once a hour....and it will probally be the same as a JDAM...but like in a line not a circle
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last time i could remember carpet bombing being used was in afghanistan, and maybe in iraq. so its still definitly used, it just really depends on the area. if theres lots of civilians around {like in a populated city/village} its definitly not going to be used. thats way too much collateral damage. if its a relatively open area, and most people in the area are considered hostile, then it can be used {like in the afghan mountains} i think in PR it would be an excellent addition to a map like kashan, not for close air support, as your talking big time TKS, but as a way to clear out an area before an assault. with the lack of cover in certain areas it could come in very handy since without any assault would be a total meatgrinder. and the JDAM just doesnt cut it right now, its really just a giant smoke grenade.
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It would be nice if a LOT of differant weapons were added for the commander. Carpet bombing, JDAMs (Of various size aswell) single missile surgical strikes. At the moment the commander really has nothing to do, but if having a commander would allow you like 10 differant types of area attacks, each one with it's own seperate timer. That'd deffinently give incentive to go commander. So in conclusion, I support this idea, and hope more come in the future.
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US isn't signing the cluster bomb treaty AFAIK. I read that article a while back to.
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B-52G's flew 50,000+ feet in Desert Storm.... I doubt you can hear that on the ground.
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From what I gather, B1s and B52s nowadays just load up on JDAMs/LGBs/other smart munitions, even providing CAS in Afghanistan and possibly? Iraq. Seems like carpet bombing is very rare.
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Because of Collateral Damage? :S
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They still carpet bomb with dumb munitions for large area enemy concentrations and the like. Plus it's very much an intimidation factor, saw an interview with some US general once talking about how much fear one carpet bombing run can instill in an opposing force.
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Re: Jdam OR carpet bombs

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Conman51=US= wrote:i kinda agree..but not much i dont think it will be impropoly used because it only comes once a hour....and it will probally be the same as a JDAM...but like in a line not a circle
Dude you're not seeing the point, do we want to add fuel air bombs, ICBMs, MOABs, Scud Launchers and Tactical Nukes as well? Most of the battles in Project Reality represent active battlefields with troops on both sides fighting at relatively close range... a soldier isn't going to go up the chain of command and request a carpet bombing because they're pinned down, if they're close enough to see the target to begin with they might as well be calling in precision strikes (Ala JDAM), or some other form of CAS.

Carpet bombing is something that's done to cause damage to very large areas (especially if you're talking about something delivered from a B-52). Hell it was used to eradicate cities in WW2.
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If I had to choose between a Jdam or a carpet bombing run....
Carpet bombing run hands down, it has that oh-so-necessary over kill :twisted:
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[T]waylay00
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Re: Jdam OR carpet bombs

Post by [T]waylay00 »

Carpet bombing is still definitely used today. It's used to take out big enemy concentrations over a fairly large area. I think it would be too big for use in PR though.
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charliegrs wrote:last time i could remember carpet bombing being used was in afghanistan, and maybe in iraq. so its still definitly used, it just really depends on the area. if theres lots of civilians around {like in a populated city/village} its definitly not going to be used. thats way too much collateral damage. if its a relatively open area, and most people in the area are considered hostile, then it can be used {like in the afghan mountains} i think in PR it would be an excellent addition to a map like kashan, not for close air support, as your talking big time TKS, but as a way to clear out an area before an assault. with the lack of cover in certain areas it could come in very handy since without any assault would be a total meatgrinder. and the JDAM just doesnt cut it right now, its really just a giant smoke grenade.
Carpet Bombing is still a viable tactic, but it's something that falls under "Strategic Bombing" and "Terror Bombing". The former being used with the intent to destroy the enemies ability to wage war by attacking industrial and economic targets. The latter with the intent of damaging the enemies' morale by usually destroying and killing civilian targets.

On an active battlezone, you're going to be using small, precision payloads for the use of "Tactical Bombing". Where CAS can be used to annihilate tanks and bunkers.

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