Kashan, why do you bolt when it pops up as next map ?

[Thermis]

16 player Kashan FTW.

I prefer the 16 and 32 modes. 64 can be good if both teams have commanders and the jets can be coordinated to hit targets. But I despise the jets most of the time because you can get almost an entire squad just sitting there waiting for them and nothing else.

[[DVB] Avalon.ca]

my personal opion of the map is not favorable. that is not to say that the mappers did not do a good job on it, just a personal preferance. i always compair it to bohemian rhapsody by queen. once waynes world came out it was the most overplayed song i have ever encounted. much the same with pr, once this map is up, once every one is waiting at the main bases for all the really cool toys, and the tking for them is over one team has a hugh advatage over the other. by this time you have 4 hours to wait until you may get a decent game out of it, or you can just join another server and look for a more player friendly map.

now guys this is my own opion, and it is not ment to insult the dev's or map makers in any way. just my take on it.

[Mora]

I always seem to look for the kashan map on the server browser preferably the 32 size A-Choppers own! And when my mate Alex6714 and me are in the air the round wont take that long . If the teams works a bit with the air units it can go quite fast.

[Alex6714]

Here is my opinion on kashan:

The 32 and 64 versions of the map should have plenty of assets on low respawn.

Reason?

20 min respawn for tanks and a little scout chopper is fin on qwai. Its a small map, focused mainly on infantry.

Kashan is a big, very open map.

Infantry don´t like kashan, so in my opinion it should be a tank/air map and have lower respawns on vehicles and more of them.

Make it a vehicle map, make the bunkers accessable and this will map the map 10x more fun and help to stop the waiting/TKing for assets.

And you still have the 16 player version left, for those who want to play infantry on it.

[Oddsodz]

Hate K16

Like K32

Love K64

[youm0nt]

I haven't played PR for a while but the reason I probably left if Kashan was the next map was because the rounds are too long and I like playing until the very end and see the outcome of the round.

[ostupidman]

Personally I hate it. I'm an infantry guy. Good transport guys are far and few between. Cover is about as abundant as ak-47's at a pacafist convention. It's a boring map to run across.

[SGT.JOKER]

I dont hate the map, but depending on how my team does the 1st 10 min or so decideds if I'll stay or leave. Its a good map when you have the right teams facing eachother. If you dont have good teams its just gonna be really long, drawn out round that can get boring.

[ZAP44]

=TCC= actually had one of their servers running this map 24/7. Until yesterday I would see more gamers on it than the other PR server which has map rotation. However I’m one of those that would probably drop because I don’t care for the map. To me it’s too far to walk, too hard to get a good ride and too open. Yes I know it is a desert environment. City maps are OK but I prefer lots of foliage to sneak around in. I think all maps have their following.

[Bob_Marley]

Its a dull map to look at. Its a horrid map to drive tanks on. The vast majority of it is very boring when playing infantry.

32 & 64 are eeeh. Typically rounds play out as one side losing all its heavy assets followed by a complete rape as tanks run rampant for 20 minutes almost unopposed.

16 is quite fun, with heliborne insertions, .50 cals blasting away to give support, infantry storming bunkers or enguaging at fire fights at extreme range. Then its a fun map.

When I'm trying to convince my T90 to go up the gentle slope rather than off to the left as it seems to want to while the USAF strafes me, its not.

That said, I'd quite like to see a version of Kashan focusing on infantry operations supported by a CAS jet or 2 on the other team, imo that could be rather interesting.

As a DEV I don't recall the name of said, its the extreme of PR. When you've got a good squad, in a good team on a good server with good admins and your opponents are a fairly even match its awesome. Any other time and its rubbish.

[ReaperMAC]

Kashan 16 = epic fun.

[ralfidude]

MORA we all know u like the map, saw all the gunship videos u made (or showed, not sure if u made em)

U sure like ur kashan dose in the morning.

(i prefer morphine)


(studied the techniques of choppers and realized that being in the clouds is the best way to avoid getting shot down)

But its a shame, the apache is made to hug the ground, it uses the terrain to conceal itself... but kashan has no concealment what so ever.

[Cassius]

I hate Kashan. It's way too boring. Sure, you can use all the features that Pr offers... but to what extend? Dying and running 4.6km again? Somehow my ride always get's blown up. I don't mind the MEC at all but I do mind seeing so little action, although I do have to admit O'm an infantryman at heart. Hence my hate for Kashan Desert, I guess.

Thats weird I play a lot of infantery as well, but still enjoy it seeing an strafing run called down upon a squad executed or being ferried across the map in a Black Hawk. If you have to walk a lot like that u must have tough luck ><

[musp3r]

All out map. Greatest. Usually I'm jumping from one Kashan server to another. I can fly, heal, SL, repair, mine, spot, snipe, AA...you name it...I love when I find a lost soul wandering through desert, i can completely relate to them, as the first time I got there I went outside main to the firebase to pickup a kit on foot and said "wooohooo, who's going to walk through that map?", when all other squads/transport was out.

In my opinion, best thing for infantry on Kashan is HMMV supported by armor and air units. If your squad is packed good, and if used wisely, you can make massive damage by using that tin can for fast and practically invisible transport to enemy armor or air assets, while keeping him around you through whole round.

Although I like dense urban firefights, nothing comes close to Kashan for me.

And you can teach an idiot how to fly transport correctly on Kashan in three sentences if he has desire to fly. If you call him by his name when he screw up you'll never have a good pilot out of him...If that's just another vBF visitor, he ain't gonna be there the next time you load that map.

Mestia, Qwai, Sunset, Ghost...I think they are great maps, but I'm sick of them. If my usual squad isn't around (and they truly dislike kashan in same fashion as some of you in this thread), I'll skip those and find me a nice, packed Kashan, open up a beer, and switch to burst.

[KandiotA]

I think that the most rounds in Kashan are not seriously. Is hard to command the rounds(it is not bad). Yes, may exists good teamplay but per squad, not global. People left and join ...etc
Anyway I think that this map is great is like another gamemode in the mod.
I prefer Kashan map with 6 players than a 16players mode maps(not the case of khasan because the 16 mode is the same big map).
*I hope that my english is good i wrote this fast

[OkitaMakoto]

Its a big case of "Too big, not gonna waste 90% of my time struggling to get transport, etc"

I love the idea, and I really should give it more of a chance, but whenever I play, I end up waiting far too much for transportation, getting owned by tanks, listening to my entire team moan about assets, etc.

It just isnt worth it to me to put up with all that.

That and the fact that I am 99% infantry, so Id much rather play a fun round on EJOD or Mestia... EJOD is by far my favorite map...

[Waaah_Wah]

^^EJOD sucks! No offence to whoever made that map, but i really cant have a good round on it. The city is so small that you can onlt put rally points in like 3-4 different spots

It used to be good in previous versions but now i really hate it with a fiery passion.

Fools Road is probably one of the best maps in this mod, but i simply cant play anything else than sniper when on the GB team or sapper to blow up the bridge when on Militia coz of my PC being "not so good" so i end up being on 15 FPS the entire round

[KandiotA]

Yes, the city is small so put your rally at suburbs the map is not small.

[Oklahoman]

^^EJOD sucks! No offence to whoever made that map, but i really cant have a good round on it. The city is so small that you can onlt put rally points in like 3-4 different spots

It used to be good in previous versions but now i really hate it with a fiery passion.

Fools Road is probably one of the best maps in this mod, but i simply cant play anything else than sniper when on the GB team or sapper to blow up the bridge when on Militia coz of my PC being "not so good" so i end up being on 15 FPS the entire round

I love EJOD. I get a fantastic round %90 of the time.

I'm with you on fools road though, I wish it'd run better, but I'm not going to lower my settings to "Low" just because I can't run one (well, two. Bi Ming) map on my current settings.