Med & Ammo pack

[Arnoldio]

I just got an idea about medpacks.

Medpack would last lets say 100 - 150% HP and it would wear out like the wrench, so you must carefully split the amount of attention given to injured guys. Now there's the catch. There should be a deployable field hostpital (FB/Bunker style) and one or two in the main base as default, where you could sit in (8 places)(or just stand around ) and get fully healed, but slowly. The reason to sit , or better, lie in is to make everything more realistic and it would prevent exploiting. The thing is, there would be more medevacs and a significant change of the troops on the field. However medic can replenish the medpack by standing near hospital/fb/bunker.

Well, the same goes to ammo pack, so it would hold such and such number of rounds and it would be passed out like medpack (not thrown). Maybe, there could be a separate request kit fot AT guys, so carriying onle spare rockets, but the layout would be rifleman acog.

Have a nice day.

[DeadboyUSMC]

Self-destruct!

[gclark03]

Become our worst nightmare.

(This would make a great off-topic thread! Will edit this post when OP finishes his thoughts...)

[Tirak]

Suddenly start playing the theme to "The Man From U.N.C.L.E."

EDIT:
Now that the OPs finished his thought:
Both have been suggested in some form or another, the spare rocket was actually attempted, but found that it reloaded all infantry weapons, not just the AT rocket.

[Rudd]

guys if you aint got somit useful to say...

@ChizNizzle most of what you say has been suggested b4, remember to check the already sugguested suggestions thread and/or use the search function

[gclark03]

Good, there's a post to reply to now.

Some of your suggestion can be salvaged, but anything concerning casevac is out of the question, and will likely get this thread locked.

However, I do like your suggestion about the field dressing -> wrench metaphor. Instead of just throwing the thing on the ground, a player really should be able to apply the dressing as he does a medic bag, but also have the option to toss it on the ground to retain mobility.

[Rudd]

well if the field dressing idea was implemented, wouldn't you just be able to look up or down like we do now (even though it is technically a bug)

[gclark03]

Is it possible to add self-healing without looking up/down? I wonder if it's been fixed for 0.8.

[OkitaMakoto]

Continue talks on the medic/wrench idea.

MASH stuff has been long brought up and long locked... Please search.

[Rudd]

Is it possible to add self-healing without looking up/down? I wonder if it's been fixed for 0.8.

I think self healing is the bug itself mate lol

It is kinda realistic to make it so the medic can't just put his own guts back in, but I'd hate to have to bring two medics in the same squad, completely messes up my setup.

having to look up or down actually is a nice tradeoff imo, since the medic is basically defenceless and cannot help the squad much while in this state, then again...the medic is getting alot of new field dressings so perhaps they are preparing us for the time the med pack is no longer going to be amongst us?

[Scot]

I think self healing is the bug itself mate lol

It is kinda realistic to make it so the medic can't just put his own guts back in, but I'd hate to have to bring two medics in the same squad, completely messes up my setup.

having to look up or down actually is a nice tradeoff imo, since the medic is basically defenceless and cannot help the squad much while in this state, then again...the medic is getting alot of new field dressings so perhaps they are preparing us for the time the med pack is no longer going to be amongst us?

Yeah it means you might not always get best medic

[Rudd]

Yeah it means you might not always get best medic

Scot, you use to be cool man, what happened?!

/jk

I was talking from a SL's position

I generally like LAT/hat, Medic, Rifleman, AR rifleman, Grenadier, I have to sacrifice one of these guys for another medic and I'd only ever sacrifice the grenadier really if I had to bring both LAT and HAT

[AnRK]

Ner, you always need Marksman and Support! What's a squad if it can't lie down and kill stuff without even having to move anywhere?

I like the idea of having the ammo pack and med kit in the way the OP described them though. So you would have a finite amount of ammo/health/wrenching you can give and then you have to get it reloaded by a crate or ammo pile. Dunno if that might cause some strange behaviour with people reloading each others ammo bags, or "ammo" being used as repair/medical supplies.

If it was doable to make them only reload off of crates and ammo piles that would be cool, I seem to remember TWO types of ammo being possible, so if you had current ammo/health/wrenching as 1 type and reload capacity as another that might work. Dunno if I'm remebering something that didn't actually happen at all though...

[Enderjmu]

Now that the OPs finished his thought:
the spare rocket was actually attempted, but found that it reloaded all infantry weapons, not just the AT rocket.

How about field-dressing-like ammo bag, that replenishes all/half of said person's ammo... but only one person. Priority is to Rockets and bullets, Field dressings and med-packs are last on the list. although you can get 2 people that resupply each other with 2 ammo bags, back and forth...

Also, yeah, it'd be interesting if there was Med-pack ammo, but maybe 300 percent?

[Tirak]

How about field-dressing-like ammo bag, that replenishes all/half of said person's ammo... but only one person. Priority is to Rockets and bullets, Field dressings and med-packs are last on the list. although you can get 2 people that resupply each other with 2 ammo bags, back and forth...

Also, yeah, it'd be interesting if there was Med-pack ammo, but maybe 300 percent?

I don't think the system works off priority, Rockets take up more of the percentage of ammo in an ammo bag, so to reload a rocket the ammo bag must have x% and you must wait while that X% is accumulated, but I'm no coder. I don't like the idea of med-pack ammo because it's already hard enough to be a Medic, once you run out of ammo, you're an inneffective version of the Ironsights Rifleman, at least until we see how the Aimpoint sight changes how people aim.

[Wolfe]

An auto-healing field hospital is too easily exploited. Do you want to be the one trying to kill an enemy squad inside a hospital who are constantly being auto-healed as they shoot out? Or do you want to be the one who gets shot in the field, begins to bleed out, then has to run and find a hospital... and that doesn't count the griefers who will be waiting for your arrival..

[Enderjmu]

An auto-healing field hospital is too easily exploited. Do you want to be the one trying to kill an enemy squad inside a hospital who are constantly being auto-healed as they shoot out? Or do you want to be the one who gets shot in the field, begins to bleed out, then has to run and find a hospital... and that doesn't count the griefers who will be waiting for your arrival..

-Can only be built at Outposts, or maybe only the bunker variation of the Outpost...
-5 shots to kill the tent (i.e. 1 grenadier may kill everyone inside... smoke so they can't see while you get an auto-guy rushing in there with a buddy and grenades... if they want to have a friendly there with a shovel, fine, but it'll take so long, and it's just going to get shot anyway...)
-Heals in Waves (every minute or so? just so people can bleed out before they get healed... and even then the hospital only heals half. Used only for topping off people that, say, were down to 31% and dropped their field dressing, but if they run to the hospital expecting a full heal they'll bleed dry first.)

Tirak: fine then, reloads up to 100% of ammo, but usable only once. Then the ammo bag it has to be reloaded off of another source.

[Tirak]

^^
You'd have to talk to a Dev about it, like I said, I'm no coder.

[Wolfe]

Don't over-complicate a coding solution for a problem that doesn't exist.