So we can't have increased draw distance because people have crappy computers?

unrealalex · Post by **unrealalex** » 2008-08-16 19:50

Or is there some other reason? I think it would be so much better if draw distance was increased, at least by a quarter. If someone has performance issues, can't they just turn down their draw distance in the graphics options?
From that poll, most people play on high and medium, don't think anyone on medium-high would have performance problems.
Increasing the draw distance would bring a whole lot more reality to the game I think. I'm not saying increase it all the way, just maybe a quarter more, or 15% more, so we can actually shoot people at ranges our rifles are still effective at.

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-08-16 19:52

It would bring lag no matter what. Its great how it is.

unrealalex · Post by **unrealalex** » 2008-08-16 19:53

LtSoucy wrote:It would bring lag no matter what. Its great how it is.

Have you tried it? I doubt 15-25% increase would bring a lot of lag. Plus lag is when the server is communicating with your computer slower, and correct me if I'm wrong, but the server doesn't actually draw the map, hence why most servers don't have $500 graphics cards. If by lag you mean performance issues on people's computers, then people could turn down their draw distance in their options.

m0jo · Post by **m0jo** » 2008-08-16 19:55

LtSoucy wrote:It would bring lag no matter what.

Server-side lag or client-side lag ?

LtSoucy · Post by **LtSoucy** » 2008-08-16 19:57

The more files that must be sent from the person's computer to the server will take longer to get both ways, causing lag to the player.Its also been disscussed alot before.

unrealalex · Post by **unrealalex** » 2008-08-16 20:01

How does increased draw distance mean more files are sent from person's computer?

Mora · Post by **Mora** » 2008-08-16 20:08

More files? The only thing that is send to the server is the status of you, meaning where you are, what you do and what you drive/fly. Just information. View distance or draw distance has nothing to do with it.

waldo_ii · Post by **waldo_ii** » 2008-08-16 20:19

If you have a longer draw distance, the client needs more information from the server on what is out there. It is my understanding that the client doesn't ask for information unless it is inside the draw distance.

Priby · Post by **Priby** » 2008-08-16 20:31

what about the things outside the draw distance?
I tought your getting information about them, even if you cant see them.

T.Parker · Post by **T.Parker** » 2008-08-16 20:35

Priby pwnd u all i think ...

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-08-16 21:00

unrealalex wrote:can't they just turn down their draw distance in the graphics options?

Of course they can.

In exchange for getting shot by invisible enemies

Post by **Spec** » 2008-08-16 21:09

Deadfast wrote:Of course they can.

In exchange for getting shot by invisible enemies

Quote of the day.... thread... thread.

It would be unfair. Sure, the Dev's cant make sure that a 10 years old PC can still run PR, but it shouldnt require a system that can run crysis on max.

Oddsodz · Post by **Oddsodz** » 2008-08-16 21:18

Spec_Operator wrote:Quote of the day.... thread... thread.

It would be unfair. Sure, the Dev's cant make sure that a 10 years old PC can still run PR, but it shouldnt require a system that can run crysis on max.

Why not? The better the game. The more will come to play.

But I don't think it is a thing that the DEV can change. It's most likely a BF2 Engine issue and can not be changed. But I don't know as I don't code.

I also don't see that need for this anyway. Game is fine in that department anyway.

Mora · Post by **Mora** » 2008-08-16 21:22

waldo_ii wrote:If you have a longer draw distance, the client needs more information from the server on what is out there. It is my understanding that the client doesn't ask for information unless it is inside the draw distance.

Afaik the server only sends the status of things to you. The server doesn't load the map like we do... and we don't load of the server. Only download packets of information of other players and objects.

baptist_christian · Post by **baptist_christian** » 2008-08-16 22:22

Oddsodz wrote:Why not? The better the game. The more will come to play.

But I don't think it is a thing that the DEV can change. It's most likely a BF2 Engine issue and can not be changed. But I don't know as I don't code.

I also don't see that need for this anyway. Game is fine in that department anyway.

you haven't played ARMA have you? the draw distances kick PR's ***.

Post by **Deadfast** » 2008-08-16 22:32

baptist_christian wrote:you haven't played ARMA have you? the draw distances kick PR's ***.

Have you played Crysis?

The graphics kick Duke3D's ***.

The point is that you can't compare incomparable

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akatabrask · Post by **akatabrask** » 2008-08-16 23:11

I think it's fine as it is, the common soldier wouldn't fight at distances grater than 3-400m and afaik the draw distance is greater than that on all maps - I have never got into a situation where it has been bothering me.
The only people I could see getting the advandtage of greater draw distance are people with a high zoom (ie snipers, tanks and helis, and possibly jets) and they allready have all the advantages they could get so it wouldn't be fair if they got more.

Sanke · Post by **Sanke** » 2008-08-17 01:54

I say increase it, if your comp can't max pr then you should upgrade it or trash it. The bf2 engine is so old and easy to max

jim1994 · Post by **jim1994** » 2008-08-17 01:56

lol....my **** Dell cant handle BF2 XDD
i play on all low and get 20-80 FPS

TF6049 · Post by **TF6049** » 2008-08-17 02:50

Yeah he did. Otherwise hacks wouldn't work.

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