MEC special forces advisor for Insurgents

[charliegrs]

I think it would be kinda cool to have a requestable special forces kit for the insurgents, and the kit would actually be a MEC special forces soldier {with maybe the model from BF:SF} i mean i dont know if the MEC and the insurgents are on the same side, but i would imagine if they are that there would be a few MEC special forces acting as advisors for the insurgents, maybe even instigating the insurgency in the first place. just make it like 1 or 2 limit, and with a AKsu74 or whatever other SF weapon. please discuss.

[Boommelonshot]

Yeah he has a point. Ill bet that some insurgents are ex-military. Why not give them something actually useful.

[BetterDeadThanRed]

That's not at all what he said.

I can agree with this and I think in the past the officer kit used a SF kit geometry, but I wouldn't mind seeing spec ops come on the insurgent team but in a more teamwork oriented roll than their traditional counterparts.

[Outlawz7]

In 0.6 the Officer for Insurgents used the same geometry as it does now, it was 0.5 where we had the MEC SF player model for the leet Insurgent Spec Ops kit with AK101+GP30.

Personally if this gets added, I'd rather like to see them get the iron sight G3

[EOD_Security-2252]

I like this idea, it's like with Green Berets and force-multipliers (except MEC SF replaces Green Berets, and the force multiplication goes to OPFOR not friendlies). I don't know much about non-US special forces, but US special forces always are being force multipliers. I'd say give him a AKsu74, an explosive, ammo bag, multiple field dressings and binoculars. Basically, the kit would be the ultimate Insurgent helper + some SF weaponry. For the explosive, I would say have either SLAMs, claymores or AP mines (which don't exist yet).

[Expendable Grunt]

I think the concept was dropped.

Also, they use HK weapons, why would they have an AK-74u?

[Scot]

Isn't MEC against terrorism? I mean that is what I thought, cos we could have MEC v insurgents later.

[azn_chopsticks_boi]

A map with insurgents vs MEC?

There are non and I am sure there will never be any official one release.

[EOD_Security-2252]

Special Forces often use the weapons of local forces (OPFOR or friendly). An operator may choose to use the weapon of local forces so that he might demonstrate a sort of commonality with them. Also, it will familize the operator with the weapon, which is good because part of force multiplication is teaching local forces how to use their weapons propperly.

I always thought of MEC as a pro-Insurgent group.

[LtSoucy]

Great suggestion, maybe the officer kit could be a MEC soldier leading them. Kit could be:


Combat Knife
Sidearm
G3 Ironsights
3 F1 Grenades
1 Smoke
Binoculars
1 Field Dressing

[Expendable Grunt]

Maybe as a tool against their enemy, but doubtful these insurgents will "bow" to the MEC's rule later on.

[steve_06-07]

I agree with EOD Security, give the "advisor" a common weapon that the insurgents use, but more militaristic like the Militia faction, or even more militaristic than that. Maybe load the kit out for a specialist advisor.
Explosive expert:
Ak-47(2+1)
IED/C4(2)
TM-62 Mine(1)
F1 Grenade(2)
Binoculars
Health Packs

Weapons expert:
Ak-47(2+1)
Gp-25 GL(3 HE)
M-444 Pistol
Ammunition Bag
Binoculars
Health Packs

Give or take a few things here or there, but it's a basic idea.

[Eddie Baker]

We had a foreign advisor SF kit with the insurgency mode a while back.

[Tannhauser]

There is no rule that defines MEC as a Pro or Anti insurgents army. As much as US did send SFS to help insurgents that would go against ennemies of US, nothing says MEC, PLA or UK can't do it. However, don't get me wrong there ; MEC vs Insurgents IS possible. As much possible as PLA vs Ins/smugglers.

Don't start defining exact ideas of MEC. MEC is fictionnal and not necessarly opfor, it can be friendly too, like ANA and Saudi Arabian Army are. ... mkay?

On another hand, I think it's pretty much useless of a kit ; It does not fulfill any specific prupose other than being a uber insurgent, wich is not worth the work then. I agree Insurgents should have more variety of kits, but that's not so useful.
Otherwise, the XFaction Advisor should have proper weapons : MEC uses HK weapons, so that's what he should have. Anything else you guys suggested to be in the kit makes other Insurgent kits useless, hence making it a bad idea. If it's a pickup kit, it's not better as it will be the l33t n3w 50. C4l l0l0l0l!!!1!!...

[bosco_]

This guy?

[single.shot (nor)]

NO WAY!!

the middle eastern coalition is a lawful society and therefore against terrorism and are no terrorists.

since theyre (probably) modern muslims, they'll be thinking that the taliban and al-qaeda are using their holy text (the quaran) aqainst its purposes. the quaran is like a bible to them
and serves similar use.

so by using the quaran to make violence is blasphemy, just as using the bible as toilet paper.

in general islam is more like chrisrianity, as mohammed is a loving prophet and he gives his money to the poor people in his region.
(DO NOT CONFUSE MUHAMMED WITH JESUS. jesus was divine and mohammed wasn't)

so i do not think its a good idea to make a insurgent supporting military as there is (religeously and politically) no reason to do it.

no country in the sane world is pro-terrorism.period.

[Tirak]

NO WAY!!

the middle eastern coalition is a lawful society and therefore against terrorism and are no terrorists.

since theyre (probably) modern muslims, they'll be thinking that the taliban and al-qaeda are using their holy text (the quaran) aqainst its purposes. the quaran is like a bible to them
and serves similar use.

so by using the quaran to make violence is blasphemy, just as using the bible as toilet paper.

in general islam is more like chrisrianity, as mohammed is a loving prophet and he gives his money to the poor people in his region.
(DO NOT CONFUSE MUHAMMED WITH JESUS. jesus was divine and mohammed wasn't)

so i do not think its a good idea to make a insurgent supporting military as there is (religeously and politically) no reason to do it.

no country in the sane world is pro-terrorism.period.

The United States supplied the Afghani freedom fighters with weapons and training when the Russians invaded. The Russians supplied North Vietnamese soldiers with training, weapons and fighter support. Countries supply groups that are against their enemy. On one Insurgency Map, there could be a MEC/China Advisor against the US/Brits, on another, a US/Brit Advisor against the MEC/China ect.

[bosco_]

Iranian advisors have been captured in Iraq, too.



Some more retro stuff...

[ReadMenace]

bosco;773017']Iranian advisors have been captured in Iraq, too.
Some more retro stuff...

Used to be my favorite kit in Basrah .

If this were being considered, you could make the kit 'Foreign Advisor,' separating it from the MEC completely.

-REad

[ryan d ale]

Single shot. Just thought I'd point out Muslims believe in Jesus Christ too. He is in the Koran too.

On the matter of a regional middle eastern armed force supporting terrorism:

The official answer is no.

However, individual members of the force no doubt have loyalties to their respective country (including those under attack by the west and their allies). They will have lost family and freinds or they could simply have joined the regional force to supply weapons and learn how to train. It's not like it didn't happenb in Iraq with the police force and the army.

This being said, I doubt they'd support the PKK.