Make it impossible to build while in prone

[Bringerof_D]

Crouch is fine, but it is extremely unrealistic to dig and be prone...

what? have you never seen people digging fox holes while lying down, digging is fine prone it's just the building part thats unrealistic

[Gore]

And increase the number of players needed to construct a bunker/firebase.
It takes 1 to set a firebase in 1-2 minutes. By increasing the number it would reduce the number of bunkers/firebases we see all over the map, in lame spots.

Some people just build for the sake of... building something.

[00SoldierofFortune00]

This seems a little bit of a mundane issue. Would probably take more work than it is worth.




What would make it real is if all the materials, exact number of sand bags, wood planks for the floor, and wood for the roof were all laying in a pile and the player can pick up the component and take it to the build area and have put it in its spot. Then it can take a certain amount of time to place each part.

I've taken sh!ts that last longer than it takes to construct those small buildings.

I agree. And it already takes a long time to build a firebase/bunker, so why make it even harder by being exposed for half the time? Even the best squad with teamwork will not be able to cover the builders from snipers, and snipers/marksman don't need anymore of a leg up against troops.

And increase the number of players needed to construct a bunker/firebase.
It takes 1 to set a firebase in 1-2 minutes. By increasing the number it would reduce the number of bunkers/firebases we see all over the map, in lame spots.

Some people just build for the sake of... building something.

It already takes an eternity to build one with two troops, let alone one, so why make it even more complicated?

what? have you never seen people digging fox holes while lying down, digging is fine prone it's just the building part thats unrealistic

^^^^^If you were building something in real life and there were mortars or bullets coming at you, would you really just crouch there with no cover or go prone?

[Spec]

What he's saying is, that there is a code to allow weapons to be fired only in prone, but not to fire it in everything BUT prone.

Though he and myself were wrong, i forgot that the HAT is indeed not usable in prone position. Actually, this is very interesting and could be something that might be used with some other weapons too, having two versions, one for standing one for prone, to avoid pronespam (not the usual rifles, but maybe some heavier weapons. They did it to the LMG's already, but sniper and marksman rifles could get a similiar thing to, having two weapons for the different stances. Or maybe not, since the kits in PR are quite full. But if anyone was to make a CQB mod, they might consider it.)

[=]H[=TangFiend]

It can be hard enough to get pubbers to build as a commander as is. Lets not complicate the process any more.


On that note, give players more points bonuses for digging to encourage people to whip out their shovels

[darkwarrior666]

You say that like people actually give a damn about point totals in an unranked server, Tang.


Aside: The code does exist, as the HAT kits cannot be fired from a prone position. And I also agree with the realism of it.

[=]H[=TangFiend]

People do on the HOG server since we have server tracker that keeps a global score we are always jockeying for points.

[Tartantyco]

Crouch is fine, but it is extremely unrealistic to dig and be prone...

-You haven't been in the army have you?

[Zimmer]

You say that like people actually give a damn about point totals in an unranked server, Tang.


Aside: The code does exist, as the HAT kits cannot be fired from a prone position. And I also agree with the realism of it.

You can but you will suicide if you do

[Spec]

You can but you will suicide if you do

So the deviation is just maxed? Cool. I mean, not cool, but then i was right

Still, can you max the "deviation" of the shovel so you just dont hit the bunker? Or would that be impossible due to a limit in angle (screen size)?

[AnRK]

What he's saying is, that there is a code to allow weapons to be fired only in prone, but not to fire it in everything BUT prone.

How's the SRAW and Erxy work then? Is that just a deviation thing? I've never actually tried to fire it in prone due to the sight telling me I haven't a hope in hell of hitting anything

*EDIT* Already answered, I need to learn to touch type....

[zangoo]

Well there is no code that doesnt allow a weapon to be fired in everystance but prone. The hat is done is by deviation.

Here is the deviationcomp from a hat kit

rem ---BeginComp:SoldierDeviationComp ---
ObjectTemplate.createComponent SoldierDeviationComp
ObjectTemplate.deviation.minDev 0.1
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setFireDev 20 20 0.2
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setTurnDev 20 0.5 0.5 0.2
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setSpeedDev 20 20 20 0.2
ObjectTemplate.deviation.setMiscDev 20 20 0.2
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModStand 1
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModCrouch 0.8
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModLie 400
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModZoom 1
rem ---EndComp ---

Notice
ObjectTemplate.deviation.devModLie 400

There is no code that makes a gun shoot in every stance from all of the code i have looked though And thats alot.

[Scot]

-You haven't been in the army have you?

I didn't mean dig, but in the instances of PR its digging, I meant building ops: