Engineers get SLAM or wrench destroys enemy structures

[Rollonio]

Since the engineers swapped C4 for trip mines it has gotten very difficult to remove enemy firebases and their secondary structures.

I know that you can knife the radio to reduce a firebase to its unconstructed state but unless you have an APC or the rare spec ops kit, it is very difficult to get rid of the unconstructed firebase, or other structures like the AA or 50-cals, especially if they are up on buildings.

I know that unconstructed firebases disappear after some time but i'd rather like to be able to destroy them once and for all, instead of guarding them against new shovelers.

My suggestion is giving engineers a single SLAM charge or allowing enemy structures (unconstructed firebases/50 cal/wire/AA) to be disassembled by the engineer wrench.

[Scot]

I agree with the suggestion, but no need for double post So I suggest a MOD closes the other one and we concentrate on this one

[LtSoucy]

There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.

[strima]

There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.

The Royal Engineers are given plenty of dems kit on operations in case they need it. So can the Devs please give the Brits lots of C4 and screw everyone else!!!

[Eddie Baker]

There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.

The combat engineers are the demolition teams, Soucy. They don't just build bridges, they blow them up. And they breach obstacles by blowing them up.

[hexhunter]

Give them proper SLAMs, I don't know if BAF use SLAMs, but in real life SLAMs work as both small mines and demo charges. Also they could have multitools for cutting barbed wire and other maybe more useful things.

Also, is it realistic for engineers to have breaching shotguns? Should a separate limited class get those?

[Eddie Baker]

Give them proper SLAMs, I don't know if BAF use SLAMs, but in real life SLAMs work as both small mines and demo charges. Also they could have multitools for cutting barbed wire and other maybe more useful things.

Also, is it realistic for engineers to have breaching shotguns? Should a separate limited class get those?

No, the SLAM is a US only munition; it's basically a placeholder for every other faction. US combat engineers are trained in dynamic entry prior to deployments, which includes ballistic breaching techniques.

[waldo_ii]

I would like to see either the engineer getting at least one SLAM, or the ability to un-wrench enemy vehicles and AA and deployable .50s and such.

Suppose you come across an abandoned enemy Nanjing in the field. The squad engineer takes his wrench and damages the Nanjing enough that it gets a flat tire. Or for an abandoned APC, the engineer takes his wrench and tracks it. Or he comes across a enemy AA from an old firebase, he destroys it. Same for the deployable .50s.

[Airsoft]

^^ Place a mine in front of it and hope to god they dont check it and drive it in that direction

[EOD_Security-2252]

There not given C4 or SLAMS in real life. The Army has demo teams for that. there role is to repair and build, not destroy. And it has been suggested before.

I'll respect you 98% of the time Lt, but this time you're just plain wrong. Engineers do destroy stuff with explosives. Modern engineers use different explosives for different situations. Now, I'll agree that Engineers shouldn't get SLAMs, but Engineers should get explosives. Should their explosives be the remote detonated C4 that the SF get? No, it should be a C4 that uses a time delay fuse and must actually be placed/set up, and not just thrown like the SF c4.
I've discussed this before in Tartantyco's feedback thread about how he (and others) were disconted with the 0.8 engineer.

[Cassius]

I sort of like it there isnt all that C4 spamming anymore. Engineers take out razorwire anti tank traps clear the path for the troops etc.. In game C4 is brought to enemy assets more than anything else, thats what a spec ops team would do.

Also there are plenty of things to take out a firebase. Imo they shouldnt even have included the ability to knife it. Bunkers and firebases are basically stationary tanks, now how hard can it be to bomb them with one of the many toys avaiable, or to deploy an ammo crate for a lat gunner so he can fire repetadely on the FB/Bunker ?

[waldo_ii]

I don't really think that engis should get M2 SLAMS specifically, but they should get something of equal usage or power. Sticks of dynomite, small packets of C4 (not as large as SF C4), something small but still has enough explosive power to actually be used to take out small things (AA, severely damage Humvees, kill FAVs, kill caches)

[Caboosehatesbabies]

I fooled around in training mode and I have to say that Giving Engineers a SINGLE SLAM would be a quick fixed instead of making a whole new weapon like the explosive charge I've proposed. 1 Slam is enough to blow up a humvee or Vodnick (or atleast heavily damage it), but not a tank, APC, or bridge.

[Tartantyco]

Look

[EOD_Security-2252]

Yeah, see, I told you guys.