128 players in 1.5, EA pleeeeaaasseee!!!

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128 players in 1.5, EA pleeeeaaasseee!!!

Post by KingKong.CCCP »

128 players on the server are possible, we already tried that. The problem is in the clients, they're hardcoded on 64 max, and PR devs can't change it due to the EULA agreement.

So it was not possible...


... until now.



IF EA decides to include 128p support in the new 1.5 patch (it's coming), we could see large scale battles soon.

So, does anybody knows how to make a statement that would make EA do this change in the new patch?

Finally, is there enough people who want to see 7 apc crews disembarking 7 full squads (42 infantrymen) in an assault supported by 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 tanks?
I know I would. :)
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Not gonna happen pal.
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Sadly this has been discussed to death. EA really doesn't care about player feedback unless it means millions of $ back for them :rolleyes:
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yeah, you're probably right, Rico... I made the thread as a place where we can wine about it. ;)
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If it's raised to 80 then it would already be amazing ;) . And squadmemberlimit to 8. But I doubt they will, even though I'm sure it's a simple "switch" they have to set somewhere..

It would be epic though, if they gave us this little treat ;) .
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It would be great but the chances of them doing it are almost the same as me becoming leader of everything everywhere forever.

And no matter how many email or letters begging to put the limit up to 128 players it will not happen. Why would they do this to an old game that they aren't making much money from anymore. After 1.5 destroys bf2v (and you all know it will) then people will move onto BF:BC mainly because BF2 will have no more support.
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Maybe we should write a "letter" signed by community members of all mods and send it to them...

At least that would express our desire :)

But I guess ^ is right, they wont do anything but a mass mail would at least be something we could do beside disucssing it on forums ;)
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The BF2 maps are too small for 128, 100, or even 80 players. Not going to happen.
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Plus as we all know, EA like to save new features for expansions they can charge you to buy.
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+1 there Harrod200, And Spec Operator is also very correct...could you imagine 128 spammy annoying insta-proneing knobs on vBF2.
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Post by space »

Even the new Frostbite engine from DICE only supports 96 players, so I suspect that theres lag issues with 128 players. It would be great to see though, and as Jonny says, it would probably be easy for them to "unlock" (bf2 was developed to be 128 players, but then they dropped it to 64 near release)
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Spec_Operator wrote:The BF2 maps are too small for 128, 100, or even 80 players. Not going to happen.
well, yea. But it would be nice if mods had teh choice at least. PR maps are certainly big enough, especially if AAVs were crewed by 2 guys etc
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Harrod200 wrote:Plus as we all know, EA like to save new features for expansions they can charge you to buy.
If they had a BF2 - Useful Modding Variables expansion, I'd sell-out and pay EA as much blood-money as they wanted for it in a second, not that I ever wasted any of my money on any of the 3 expansions before... :|
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Jonny wrote:But this is EXACTLY what it means!

Think of the number of people who WOULD buy the game for the ammount of players that could be seen in PR.

If a few changed were made to make things easier for modders then imagine all the people who would buy to play these mods with HUGE numbers of players.

Its probably one line of code changed (ie, 20 minutes of work) to sell an extra 1000 copies.
Indeed, but 2 things:
- They are more interested in having people buy their new "super elite graphical WoWeeee" games then having the same amount through old games ---> because its old news, and this industry is known for always running after the futur.

- Having an old game produce a feature that new upcoming games would lack (as of now I don't know any online FPS with 128 players coming out) is a definite no no.


Would it be sweat ? yup. But when you have corporations of such size their focus is more about bankrolling, as pleasing the players is a side product.
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When player count increases, communication between server and clients starts to become bottleneck. To achieve a servers with hundres of players, the protocol and logic used transfer information needs to be optimized to a level which is not really in existence yet. So the limitation preventing huge servers is purely technical, not economical or political.

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Well all those points about: EA doesnt care about bf2 are not true because why are they giving money and funds for this patch? Its because they "care".
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cyberzomby wrote:Well all those points about: EA doesnt care about bf2 are not true because why are they giving money and funds for this patch? Its because they "care".
In the same way you throw peanuts to an elephant at the zoo...
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cyberzomby wrote:Well all those points about: EA doesnt care about bf2 are not true because why are they giving money and funds for this patch? Its because they "care".
they are playing with our minds!!!

btw, has the PR team been contacted at all about the patch? Last thing I think we want is for the patch to break something in PR.
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Don't expect EA to realise it might be wise to actually care for its customers, the idea that they will probably stay faithful to their company doesn't matter in their calculations since there are more than enough casuals who just buy more than enough of their products.
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