Poll: Should PR get more focused on CQB and middle range battles or long range

[tehb2]

I like variation in the kinds of maps. It allows me to use different tactics and weapons. But I think map resources need to be adjusted depending on the major focus (range wise) of the map. CQB maps need to be smaller, so less distant running, and more variations in the kinds of terrain. Since its generally in cities, have all kinds of places people can run into, multiple stories, ladders, walls we can jump, crawl, w/e. I hate the standard BF2 buildings, because most can't be entered, and PR has done some work to fix that. For longer range maps, increase the number of vehicles and transportation to have enough for everyone, even if some get destroyed. No one likes to walk all day, and regardless, everyone is going to have to walk at some point anyway, but it shouldn't be a choice between a 20min wait and walking 1000 yards. Also, "long range" maps like the desert map everyone trains on (can't remember the name) is terrible for MP use. Tanks and APC's are just too good with their optics for infantry to wonder around in the open. The main MEC base is just too huge to walk through (and boring to start), and, to get back on the tank thing, I've been in squads where tanks decided to try and get headshots on us with their main guns, instead of the usual fire-for-effect MG sprays. I could get checked for colon cancer from a mile out with Stryker optics, but can barely see the thing with binocs to my face.

Variation is good, but add a little decent cover and transportation on longer ranged maps.

[LithiumFox]

personally, i like maps that are very very unique. Ones that ecompass CQB along with ranged warfare. Take the spread outness of qinling and put some cap points that are as close as ejod. (not saying the cap points are that close, but that the area around the cap points)

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[azreal64]

the whole point of Kashan Desert (the large desert training map) is for infantry to become mechanized. Thats why the flags revolve around small villages and the bunker complex. Infantry are supposed to use trucks, APCs, and helos for transport and attack on foot.

[WildBill1337]

i voted for a mix. My favorite map of all time for any game was "Darfur" for the Point of Existence mod for Battlefield Vietnam. It had US on one side, Russians on the other, a large city in the middle, and two outposts on either side of the city. It was kind of like Kashan, but insted of having a bunker complex, you'd have a larger verion of the Ejod city. The two outposts were also large enough to have full firefights in too.

MY ideal map would be one with large forests that can be used as cover for infantry, a large city to fight over, some outposts that can be used to stage attacks on the city, and some nice open areas for good tank battles. kind of like a cross between Qinling, Ejod, Kashan, and that new insurgent map in the mountains that has all those trees and snow-capped mountains (forgot the name).

[WildBill1337]

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id like to see a large city like one described about 1/6 through the article.

[Hotrod525]

i love all size, they allow many kind of tactic you known, try to use an F16 on Korengal for fun... or a A10 on barracuda =\

[Liquid_Cow]

I got to say, that since this thread was started a lot has changed. With the full implementation of the Insurgency mode there is a lot more CQB than in the past, and some of its is brutal house to house, exactly what I was looking for. In fact, I was pretty much AWOL through .7 and .75, tried .8 and fell back in love with PRM. There is now an awsome mux of close and long range battles going on. Thanks for listening DEVs! You guys are the best.

[AquaticPenguin]

I think a mix is fine.. CQB is fun although I wouldn't like to play CQB all the time. In mid range you get some very nice battles going and in the few long range battles I've been in I found it great fun (tracers flying everyone, suppressing and being suppressed). Overall I think I like mid-long range more but not by far

[arjan]

lol, this is an old topid

[mp5punk]

Hopefully if bf3 ever comes out, im sure the beta engine will be bigger and better which means bigger maps so maybe pr could add a map like basarah or kashan and make it like take a lot longer to get to the fight not 1 min and your at flag, like maybe a 2 min flight by chopper to get to the nearest flag.

[Liquid_Cow]

Doubt it, remember most games are made for the arcade players. They don't want to have to wait 10 min before getting into action, they want to spawn and shoot. Besides, didn't we say the same thing about BF2142's engine? The only improvement I think we'll see in BF3 will be 128 players, and that's a big maybe, remember that BF42, BFV, BF2, and BF2142 are all 64pp games. There in lies one of the biggest problems with giant maps, that's a lot of space to attempt to control with just one half a platoon of men (32players)

[White Rock]

I really don't see the point of this poll if your gonna have the cop-out all of the above answer.

That being said i would say that close to middle range maps have always been my best experiences, especially for infantry. I would love to see more focus on the insurgency game mode also which is almost like an game all by itself.

[CodeRedFox]

Point being is the poll says all. threads kinda done.

[Cassius]

I would like to see a map with some balance. Either a map is a full blown asset feast, like Kashan Desert or quinling, or it is just some apcs.

Do not get me wrong. Its good that maps like Kashan and Quinling are around and one more would not hurt, if you want to have fun in armor jet choppers, those are the maps for you. Its a good thing there are maps that revolve mostly around assets.

What I would like to see is a grenada or panama themed map, a vegetation like in Operation Barracuda, maybe some structures (airfield) a little town similiar to the one in jabal or even Ejod and for assets 2 apcs one attack helicopter one or 2 tanks and an bomber or fighter aircraft.

True the Vegetations makes it hard to spot infantery, but if firendly infantery directs the CAS it should not be a problem.

[crudge]

I wanna see a map big map thats has lots of transport helis that force players to be feryed around, giving pilots a much more important role.
It'll be so cool, asking for extration, being droped off etc

[Sabre_tooth_tigger]

Kashan 16, barracuda, jabal

[arjan]

Can a mod or dev close this topic now, its old and it says what the community wants.
That was the point of the thread and now its over.

[Liquid_Cow]

Arjan, just out of curiosity, why would you make such a request? If you don't like this thread don't read it. There is still an active discussion of the merites of CQB in the game going on here. If the Mod's thought it needed to be closed they would have, believe me they do it all the time.

[Rudd]

OLD THREADS MUST DIE!!!!!!! The young and the strong survive!

btw, Operation Compton was a great mixed map miss it

[Hawk_345]

This thread seems to have run its course. just wanted to say i agree with a good mixture as long as the realism is kept intact. thats the most important thing of course. but we all know that here.