Should there be more MEC,PLA, Militant and Ins attack maps?

[HunterMed]

The coaltion forces always get maps where they can attack or both the Opfor and Coalition can attack (like EJOD).

But where are the maps where PLA attacks a GB FOB? I mean if GB really attacks China you can be sure that they wont retreat always.
What about counter attacks? (I dont mean the counterattack map function.)

Just maps like 7 gates, wetlands, barracuda, hills of hamgyong, gulf of oman, mestia reversed, so Opfor (PLA,MEC...) can also attack once.


Discuss!

[Solid Knight]

Essentially you just want a map that is setup where the Chinese or MEC are the invading/offensive force?

[Spec]

Yes thats what he's asking for.

I guess the main reason is simply that the western forces are the invading ones and the eastern forces defend. Though you are right, they'd strike back too. Maybe thats an idea for more variation in the different map sizes, like, the "light" version of a map the other force is engaging or something.

[Kruder]

Its already very absurd to see British invading China,maybe with this it'll be balanced a bit.

[HunterMed]

Essentially you just want a map that is setup where the Chinese or MEC are the invading/offensive force?

yes.

And I am sure I'm not the only one...

There are so many maps where US forces and GB forces are the attacking army.

I just want to see how PLA and MEC equipment handles attack movements in a larger scale than just retaking west beach or something...

[Phoenix.86]

Essentially you just want a map that is setup where the Chinese or MEC are the invading/offensive force?

It's called counterattack.

And especially with the manpower of the PLA or the potential one of a MEC, this possibility should be considered. And in case you're wondering how we came up with this: We often had members of the enemy teams in the tournament complaining about how they always have to attack (which usually is harder of course) and also we'd like to do some attacking ourselves for once.

It's not like the big regular opfor armies are just pansies who'd just let the Americans/Brits invade without retaliating...

[imhooks]

NO

last night we played Mestia as Brits, and got our clock cleaned by the militia. I woke up this morning with a headache from it.

[Scot]

I agree there should be a couple, but not the majority, as said before, the US and UK(and other Community factions) are the ones attack. I guess the thing would be to go and map a map with it on if you want it

But I still want an insurgents attacking a base of US or UK, then like counter attack mode, the insurgents lose xx many tickets, and it turns into normal insurgency, but with less caches(so 5 instead of 10)

[HunterMed]

I didnt say the majority of maps should change.

Just a decent Opfor attack map. Thats not too much I am asking for, if I see all the leet BH down, Omaha / Vietnam beach attack (like Apocalypse now) style attacking Americans.

Maybe then not all pubbies would like to play US all the time but would try to play with the other factions also.

Insurgents attacked VCP in basrah always in the first stages of the basrah map. And why did they do this? Because it was hell of fun attacking once with Insurgenst and not wait all the time in the city.

This can be transfered to Militia also.

And dont forget PLA and MEC. This is even more important imo.

PLA must attack... I cant believe that there is no map for a PLA charge attack on coalition forces THAT TRY TO INVADE CHINA on CHINESE GROUND

I dont need chinese to invade europe or stuff like that. But as said before a large scale counter attack would be in it if NATO really tries to invade china and middle east.

That's not funny anymore

[gclark03]

I wouldn't mind a Project Reality OPFOR attack in Britain, the rest of Western Europe, Australia, or even Alaska (there's Palin's foreign policy experience!).

In a sense, the OP is right - it always seems that, no matter the flag placement or assets of either side in almost any PR map, none of them are set deep in NATO territory. Because PR has no story, there should be maps showing every side advancing heavily into the territory of the other - it provides many more interesting map scenarios than the 'unofficial' current story that NATO is on the offensive, and that NATO is winning.

[wooly-back-jack]

good idea I say

[LtSoucy]

I agree, the MEC or china attacking a US or GB base would be nice to see.

[waldo_ii]

I would like to see a USMC vs GB map. I know that it wouldn't ever happen according to the PR storyline(s), what with them both being NATO forces and all, but I think that it would simply be interesting to see how it would play out. With most of the maps we have now, these two forces are almost always the ones with the upper hand (Quinling: Brits have CR2, Chinese have failtanks. Ejod: USA has Strykers, MEC have lunchboxes with wheels. Etc.).

Never going to happen, but I'm still allowed to voice my opinion.


But in relation to the subject of the topic, I would like to see a map where the Milita or Insurgents have the upper hand against the USMC or GB. A counter-attack like mode, only without the counter-attack. NATO has to hold their ground against T-62s and superior numbers of BRDMs and technicals.

[Scot]

I would like to see a USMC vs GB map. I know that it wouldn't ever happen according to the PR storyline(s), what with them both being NATO forces and all, but I think that it would simply be interesting to see how it would play out. With most of the maps we have now, these two forces are almost always the ones with the upper hand (Quinling: Brits have CR2, Chinese have failtanks. Ejod: USA has Strykers, MEC have lunchboxes with wheels. Etc.).

Never going to happen, but I'm still allowed to voice my opinion.

Well that would royally screw over the PR Tournament

[master of the templars]

(Quinling: Brits have CR2, Chinese have failtanks.

Ejod: USA has Strykers, MEC have lunchboxes with wheels. Etc)

LOL well said

[Onslaught]

I totally agree, this is something I've been missing as well. It would also be realistic if you look at the current situation in Afghanistan for instance.

The only reason I can think of as to why this hasn't been done is because of the "politically incorrect" notion of America or Britain being attacked and at a disadvantage. Much like the reason why you can't play as Germany in any WW2 game, i.e. playing as the "bad guys". If I'm wrong, a dev is welcome to set me straight.

[Phoenix.86]

The only reason I can think of as to why this hasn't been done is because of the "politically incorrect" notion of America or Britain being attacked and at a disadvantage. Much like the reason why you can't play as Germany in any WW2 game, i.e. playing as the "bad guys". If I'm wrong, a dev is welcome to set me straight.

Company of Heroes: Opposing Forces Addon contains 2 additional campaigns, one for the brits and one from a german pov (playing a semi-real panzer elite faction during op market garden). Loved that one since it really offered a different perspective.

And back on topic: Talking about the coalition vehicles always being overpowered, i have to say that this is wrong in quite some cases.

- BTR/WZ551 beats the stryker/lav anytime if crewed correctly
- the brdm was concepted as a scout vehicle irl, but if you keep the 3 together
on ejod, a single stryker can go and cry in the corner
- the chinese t98 is indeed less good than the abrams/challenger 2; my
question is why? anyway it will get replaced by the t99 anyway in pr
sooner or later, and that is a tank not only looking but actually being
more modern than the current one
- the t90 is really on par imho, nothing that needs to be fixed here
- the havoc beats the cobra in all aspects except anti aircraft and
maneuverability, although the apache is in my opinion really the king
- not going to mention the tunguska here, which is pure win although the
real rate of fire of this beast is quite higher and sounds more like the
a10's gau8 cannon...

So all in all I would not say at all that the opfor vehicles are underpowered, it just matters to have ppl able to use them in a correct way.

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