Improving US Iron Sights.

[ratlover232]

Damn

*EDIT* Just figured out what you meant, Awesome!

[DavidP]

By the way, we did have the small apeture sight when we started out .8 production, and holy **** if that made it in game then you guys would be spilling your guts in an uproar. *shudder*

Do you have a picture or something to compare it too? Was it like the L85?

[Chuc]

No picture, but I guarentee you all you see is the top 3 pixels of the front post.

[DeltaFart]

Lawl, Id play with it, that or give us a choice of which one to use

[OkitaMakoto]

Personal preference, I think

Personally I think they look gorgeous... on the other hand I cant stand looking at the british iron sights... not even in that picture. I seriously feel weirded out.. too pointy ;P Does that make them bad or wrong? No. I just personally dont like the irons so I take susat

Meh, like I said, personal preference. The AK series NEEDED it, I think the rest are fine... once again, thats all imho

[SuperTimo]

ive used an L85A2 (and yes it was an L85A2 not an L98A1 which ive also used) a couple of times and i think they look a bit thicker when using them. Unfortunetly i can get any pictures as in the ATC we have very harsh rules on taking pictures with weapons in.

For example there must be an insturctor in the picture

[ZZEZ]

The sights are fine really, heres picture from a ancient M16A1.

[G.Drew]

Personal preference, I think

Personally I think they look gorgeous... on the other hand I cant stand looking at the british iron sights... not even in that picture. I seriously feel weirded out.. too pointy ;P Does that make them bad or wrong? No. I just personally dont like the irons so I take susat

Meh, like I said, personal preference. The AK series NEEDED it, I think the rest are fine... once again, thats all imho

x2, personally I like the M16 sights better than any of the others.

[DavidP]

@OkitaMakoto
I do prefer the L85 sights i admit that. But you have to admit the M16 sights do look abit thick. Even the ones in the pictures posted look thinner.

[Gaven]

Your view from Facepalm city?

Alright, here's a couple shots from my AR15.

Now, my carbine has a mid-length gas system, which places its front sight 2" forward of your standard M4, and about 3.3" behind those of the M16A4. That aside, you can see that it's not far off from those featured in-game.
Now, I can make a completely different argument about the M16/M4 sights, but it simply cannot be corrected in the BF2 engine.
Sure, the aperture on the M16 & M4 could be cleaner, but really doesn't matter.

-REad

Those pictures don't look any different from the COD4 sights. The only issue with those is that they're raised up a bit too much in that game, but the visibility of looking into the sights looks a lot better.

[ReadMenace]

Those pictures don't look any different from the COD4 sights. The only issue with those is that they're raised up a bit too much in that game, but the visibility of looking into the sights looks a lot better.

Did I really need to do this? No. Did I do it? Yes.

-REad

[Smegburt_funkledink]

Did I really need to do this? No. Did I do it? Yes.

Lol! You're correct, there was no need.

People, seriously, STOP using COD4 as a reference. STOP comparing COD4 to PR, there's NO POINT!

Those pictures don't look any different from the COD4 sights.

Take another look.

Should we wish to change the ironsights we would have to reimport the weapons of that series with the model changes.

By the way, we did have the small apeture sight when we started out .8 production, and holy **** if that made it in game then you guys would be spilling your guts in an uproar. *shudder*

Yes, totally true. Just for you guys I rotated it to use the close-combat sight!

End of conversation. For the sake of a couple pixels, changing anything would be pointless. It's fine and is already 100x better than COD4, good work chaps.

Let us not speak of COD4 again, although, I've heard it has fastropes, can we have those?

[Gaven]

Did I really need to do this? No. Did I do it? Yes.

-REad

The sight picture still looks about the same to me. I only see a variation on the areas around the gun.

I still don't understand why people complain about COD4 so much. Game-play is awful, but if they have a decent texture, why not compare them?

[DeltaFart]

facepalm

[Smegburt_funkledink]

facepalm

x2

[Psyko]

i knew it! the M4 is too wide. the apature and mbs seem allright, but the width of the rifle itself seem fat. in comparrison with DavidP's PR pics and his Real life pic.

[Smegburt_funkledink]

Wut?

[waldo_ii]

They might be using a different aperture piece.

Anyways, that can be solved by bringing the sights a little bit closer to the gun.

[Smegburt_funkledink]

That is because they're using a different aperture piece.

Fixed.

By the way, we did have the small apeture sight when we started out .8 production, and holy **** if that made it in game then you guys would be spilling your guts in an uproar. *shudder*

I have no idea how many different apertures there are available for these rifles, it does look to me like PR's using a 'medium' sized one.

[ReadMenace]

i knew it! the M4 is too wide. the apature and mbs seem allright, but the width of the rifle itself seem fat. in comparrison with DavidP's PR pics and his Real life pic.

If you're talking about the pictures of my AR15 that I posted, it's not a valid comparison, as my carbine uses an Vltor MUR, which has different dimensions from a standard AR15/M4/M16 upper.
Feel free to photoshop my picture over some in-game pictures if you'd like. I'm done with that, seeing as photographs are currently <1000 words.

I have no idea how many different apertures there are available for these rifles, it does look to me like PR's using a 'medium' sized one.

As for the aperture sizes, even my photographs can be deceiving. For reference, the large aperture is about 5mm, while the small aperture is about 1.9mm in diameter. My carry handle was manufactured by Colt, which is not FN, but is the standard aperture sizes. There are many different apertures available on the market, such as National Match apertures.

-REad