Why do people not like playing as Insurgents

[Caboosehatesbabies]

I love the insurgency game mode, and I love playing as both Coalition and INS forces.

While I agree with some complains, or atleast can see where they are comming from,

IE: AK sighs <--being fixed, no more random spawnpoints <--agree with, but think hideouts should be able to be build closer together and INS get more, and the long civi spawn time <-- needs fixed

I just don't see why people don't like playing the game mode or don't like playing INS.

I was wondering if any of you INS dislikers could enlighten me

Exclude Al Basrah in this discussion, I don't know why anyone plays that map anymore, it's not balanced for .8 AT ALL.

[Scot]

Insurgency game mode brings a whole new dimension to First Person Shooters, which some people can't seem to get their head around, so are either always the Coalition Force because they feel safe on that side as it's normal weapons, or are people who just want to be 1337 with an M4 so must be US. That's the problem with Insurgency, the people mainly, not the game mode. Yes it still needs to be refined, but as a basis, it's great.


The thing is, Insurgents start with the map, by right, the Insurgents should win EVERY round, as they outnumber(tickets) and can easily out maneuver any enemy, it's only cos there is no real Team play(not squad, but inter squad) that is their downfall. With Commanders, that is slightly improved, but we will see.

[NiGHTWoLF]

I like being insurgent, the only downside of them which is pretty substantial in their inability to be revived and lack of body armour make them easier kills. Weapon wise the AK is one of the better weapons on PR added together with loads of RPG's and PKM's they are a force to be reckoned with.

[Outlawz7]

I love Korengal on both sides, but hate Ramiel due the huge size, which benefits US Army a lot more than the Insurgents, Basrah blows because everyone knows how screw Insurgents on it (blow Palace bridges, use fords, tank rape, camp on top of the hotel... ) and Op Archer is one huge open map which again only benefits the USMC, not Insurgents although Archer is slightly better for not having APCs on it, but the JDAM usually ruins everything along with the Archer mountain that overlooks the entire damn map...

[bad_nade]

but hate Ramiel due the huge size, which benefits US Army a lot more than the Insurgents

Ramiel is good map because of it huge size, not 'despite of it'. The size, three solid spawn points protected with dome of death and lots and lots of small alleys are enough to compensate the lack of random spawn points. Transport is not an issue either. Main base spawns 4 technicals, 3 dirtbikes and 2 bomb cars. Plus the city area is full of (like 10 or so) civilian cars ready to transport a full squad of righteous muslims to that far away spawned weapons cache.

[Waaah_Wah]

Because Korengal and Ramiel lagg like hell and since we now bleed out from sliding down a small hill or falling from 1 meter, being insurgents sucks balls.

"Bla bla bla teamwork, civilians bla bla"

Theres usually less than 3 civies on the entire team. Wiuth the spawntimes they get i really dont blame them. YOU as a civilian actually get punished just as much as the guy who killed you.

[Silveryvisions]

I don't understand it either, I probably enjoy playing on the insurgent side more than any other faction. Al Basrah is also my favourite PR map, I actually dislike the other Insurgency maps (Im sure I'd appreciate Ramiel more if I had a better PC, atm I can hardly run it).

I also find it strange that people seem to think 'zomg insurgents always lose they have rubbish weapons and no body armour and no tanks it's so imbalanced' particularly in reference to Al Basrah. Funny thing is, insurgents win Al Basrah probably 60-70% of the time. Which should be the case, the British team needs to be organised and work hard if they want to defeat a highly motivated enemy in their own backyard, as it should be.

Personally I think Insurgency is the highlight of PR, in terms of strategy and tactics and enjoyment. Bomb cars and molotovs anyone? Hilarious.

Btw hi all, I believe this is my first post.

[Outlawz7]

Every time I played Insurgents on Basrah we usually won cos the British ran out of tickets and most of the time we were down to the last 3 caches.

Honestly I usually intentionally go on rooftops as civi just to get shot by the coalition, make their 1337ness a bit bitter despite the 2 min spawn, I just do something else during that time.

[sunshine1991]

i lvoe play as insurents ther only 2 problems why people not like to play as insurents

1) NO FIELDS ! if u got hit u doomed !

2) No Medic Class ( and yes no one play as Civilian )

[bad_nade]

i lvoe play as insurents ther only 2 problems why people not like to play as insurents

1) NO FIELDS ! if u got hit u doomed !

2) No Medic Class ( and yes no one play as Civilian )

1) Be a cell leader of a cell of three and you will have 3 field dressings. Or ask for your cell leader to give you one if you don't want to lead.

2) Kill an american medic and pick up his kit.

[CodeRedFox]

I love playing the "bad guys", but it can be allot harder on some maps and server.

[badmojo420]

My only problem with insurgency is the lack of populated servers.

[sunshine1991]

1) Be a cell leader of a cell of three and you will have 3 field dressings. Or ask for your cell leader to give you one if you don't want to lead.

2) Kill an american medic and pick up his kit.

you kiding me right ? !
this " Dresing Fields " heal about i dont know 10-15% and u lucky son of b@$%^ if all this 3 fields will heal 1 guy and what about rest of the squad ?
and what about if leader DEAD or FAR AWAY ?

"kill americans medic " well this is 100% cool idea....but maybe will 1-2 insurent will succes to do it rest will run with RED SCREEN AND BLEED TO DEATH

[CodeRedFox]

sunshine1991 why dont your re-write you post, wrote/sounds like you have marbles in your mouth.

I agree, but its funny during the day in the US there area lot of PACKED INS servers. Maybe its just us North American guys

[xseeyax]

Personally when insurgency first came out it was the best mode out there. Everyone worked as a team on the insurgents and always ambushed the British and everything. I still like it on Al Basrah today. For some reason though the bigger maps are just boring... a lot of wondering around and not finding any contact.

Maybe it's the players I dont know but all of these wonderful huge maps are out and noone really wants to play them because of insurgency. I played a round of skirmish on Ramiel and it was one of the sickest games. There was a fierce battle over the flags and a lot of teamwork from the insurgents (I was on the insurgents).

Maybe all the HUGE maps (Operation Archer, Ramiel, Fallujah when it comes out) should be skirmish, I still haven't to this day played Operation Archer because no one wants to play insurgency on that map for some reason. I still like insurgency but it doesn't have that same feel when it first came out I dont' know if it's the players or what but it might help to make them skirmish, just a thought.

[martov]

I love insurgency

in coalition's side you feel like rambo, killing a LOT of AK47 guys.

in insurgent forces, you feel like "put a IED over there and wait them to came" or "everyone, there is a squad on the other side of this wall, make them burn!". its just too fun and too diferent to othe FPS. I love it

where else you could blow up americans with a cell phone?

[akatabrask]

Yeah, Insurgents are alot funnier to play, the hard part makes it just more fun as you acctually have to struggle alittle to accomplish something thus making the feeling from fullfilling you mission feel much more awsome, the fact that the enemy is afraid of you (they don't want any encounters, just wanna find that bloody cache which should be around here somewhere).

I have acctually never encountered that feeling of making a perfectly coordinated ambush or sitting in a house fighting for your cache, not bothering if you bleed or die in aas or the other gamemodes, insurgensy is so much better.

[bad_nade]

you kiding me right ? !
this " Dresing Fields " heal about i dont know 10-15%

20%

and u lucky son of b@$%^ if all this 3 fields will heal 1 guy and what about rest of the squad ?

Head to the nearest cache for reloads. Rinse and repeat if necessary.

and what about if leader DEAD

Everyone dies sometimes. Even coalition force's players. I bet you have died numerous times as a brit or american but I don't see you complaining about that.

or FAR AWAY ?

If you have wandered so far from you cell leader that he can't help you then you have deserved to die. Don't go alone OR don't complain about dying. You can choose only one, not both.

"kill americans medic " well this is 100% cool idea....but maybe will 1-2 insurent will succes to do it rest will run with RED SCREEN AND BLEED TO DEATH

As a team player you will naturally bring up your freshly seized medic bag and heal your team mates even they are from entirely different squad.

[CodeRedFox]

A big problem with insurgency on maps like Korengal (and others) are that most times the ins teams are scattered all over and not anywhere near the caches. Add the mountains and the limited terrain mobility people end up bitching allot and switch to the US side. Hence the reason we made Cache reloads the only place to reload. The game mode is about protecting the caches not setting IDE's along.

[Antonious_Bloc]

you kiding me right ? !
this " Dresing Fields " heal about i dont know 10-15% and u lucky son of b@$%^ if all this 3 fields will heal 1 guy and what about rest of the squad ?
and what about if leader DEAD or FAR AWAY ?

"kill americans medic " well this is 100% cool idea....but maybe will 1-2 insurent will succes to do it rest will run with RED SCREEN AND BLEED TO DEATH

On the maps that have the scout class, they also get a bunch of field dressings. That and a cell leader should have you covered.


I really dislike insurgency games because unless I plan with my clan, nobody on the insurgency side uses teamwork or even a mic. I guess the different mode causes them to turn off their brain, but there is no cohesion for the entire team whenever I'm on, and nobody ever talks. The entire team, every time I end up on the insurgent side. This isn't an exaggeration. Without a clan I have never been in a squad that stuck together or talked or did anything squadlike, and I have only a few times seen another locked squad that seemed to be doing anything.