Why do people not like playing as Insurgents

[Ondskan]

I like playing as insurgent but the commander overall is useless and you really need a good commander as a guerilla force.

You also have to little options to customize. You can't place sandbags, can't dig tunnels, can't move into US bases and loot their equipment (for some reason level ends before the US base begins for insurgents).

This is all that makes it a lil extra tuff on the insurgent team. But it is still fun IMO and I quite like it! I would like a little zoom when you take out the iron sight tho.
Our eyes are quite addaptive and we can zoom with them depending on if we want to see a target far away or close by, making our perception alot better. It may not be real zoom but it is at least focus.

Overall tho I love the idea and it is really really inovative.

[Orthas]

The insurgency mode is really nice one and I enjoy a lot playing it, on both sides.

Mainly the problems that rise are aforementioned lack of teamwork/communication on Ins side and the lack of people not realizing their objectives (both sides). Somewhere should be clarified the winning conditions: Coalition wins if they get the caches, common misassumption being that they just need to kill Insurgents (yes I know about intel gained by killing but I'll forego that for the sake of simplicity). While the Insurgents win by killing enough enemies before they destroy the caches (or on some occasions by running out of time).

This leads to a situation on Insurgent side where your task is to wreak havoc and your own casualties play no role. The concept of this is very interesting when summed up with the hefty difference in equipment and assets. I think the Insurgency side is really fine as it is, the problem is in the players and them not knowing what they should do.

As of now there exist some major problems in Insurgent side though, which are thankfully being addressed to my understanding. These include the ridiculous fall damage (insurgents being unable to get out of their caves alive in Korengal) and also the bugged spawn times of civilians. Speaking of spawn times in my opinion for the civilians they should be really short (around 10-15 secs) and also could be tweaked a little for Insurgents in general as to promote the invaluably of their life in a game which very much values surviving (like remove the added spawn time from dying).

[hx.bjoffe]

I love playing insurgent and abolutely hate playing coalition against them. Checking a whole city's worth of housing looking for caches is a waste of my time
That's why love that it's so easy to switch sides comning insurgancy maps.
Bigger maps are also better, lack of ammo sucks (especially coming to healing issues) but balances out by the large amount of 'special kits,' and i hope civilian spawn times are looked hard at.

As a sidenote, i also think it blows that insurgents collective amount of deaths has no impact on end-result. Quick suggestion; 100deaths=10tickets. Or something.

[naykon]

theres virtually no incentive to be a collaborater, who wants to wait 2mins to respawn everytime?

[gazzthompson]

i swap to INS alot, i like defending and i love the ak and rpg.

[Arakizuki]

I noticed with the new patch isn't half as fun to play on Al Basrah. I remember that was the only map I would play. I would make a full squad of IED's and rush from the oil facility straight to that north bridge. I would blow the bridge with help from my squad mates then would we have a couple on the land bridge and the others would head west and clear the other bridges. The fact that you cant run as long makes it very hard to outmaneuver infantry, combined with the ever so small update to sight-pull-up it just seems like it's harder being the little jihad with the SKS.

[gazzthompson]

basrah is worst INS map now, its to small, the brits are forced into combat constantly and just dosnt work aswell as ramiel and korengal

[Caboosehatesbabies]

I agree that in a area of the world where the people clothe their women head to foot in cloth, you'd think there'd be some more around for field dressings.

To Waaaah_wah:

I used to see the point about slipping and bleeding out, however, that was after the mod just came out. Now that I've played the maps a few times I can tell what I can walk up and what I can't. The last time I played korengal, I went the whole round as INS without slipping once.

[sunshine1991]

On the maps that have the scout class, they also get a bunch of field dressings. That and a cell leader should have you covered.


I really dislike insurgency games because unless I plan with my clan, nobody on the insurgency side uses teamwork or even a mic. I guess the different mode causes them to turn off their brain, but there is no cohesion for the entire team whenever I'm on, and nobody ever talks. The entire team, every time I end up on the insurgent side. This isn't an exaggeration. Without a clan I have never been in a squad that stuck together or talked or did anything squadlike, and I have only a few times seen another locked squad that seemed to be doing anything.

this is what i talking about !
when i play insurent mod ( cell leader dont care about heal mates )and no kit have a field to reload on cashe
maybe you people lucky play in CLAN squads but all pablick players no teamplay on INS side.
people who have medic kit ( american kit ) no heal others people anlees you 2 feet from them ( and maps are HUGE ).
most of time i play as ins . people not TEAMPLAY AT ALL squad leader take some RPG kit or if u lucky he trow u a field but u still will bleed .

and i dont belive that field heal 20%. becouse i see lot of times ( me and lot of people ) get hit trow 2-3 field and still BLEEDING !!!! (WTF)

[[DVB] Avalon.ca]

personaly i was never a lover of the mode. now that after a 5 foot (can't even say fall) slide from standing hight casues you to bleed to death. this problem has put the nail in the coffin for me with this mode.

[charliegrs]

insurgency rocks

its the players that are problem. for every person who complains about the insurgents being outclassed in every way, i ask how do you think it is in real life? should we start giving the insurgents scopes, t90s, havoks, and APCs to start evening things up? wouldnt it then at that point be coalition versus MEC with different camo? and then wouldnt it not really be project REALITY?

insurgents in real life have iron sights. get over it. dont engage far away targets. in a map like ramiel theres literally thousands of good places to hide and ambush, you dont need a scope. also insurgents dont have too many people with degrees in medicine, so dont ***** about not having medics.

insurgents were given unlimited tickets for a reason. you ARE supposed to be cannon fodder, but that doesnt mean you cant make the coalition bleed in the process, and defend your caches doing so. the big maps are great, the bigger the better. its shows on the map where YOU are supposed to defend, and the coalition usually gets intelligence on where THEY are supposed to look, so i dont know how in the world people say the big maps make it too hard to get in contact with the enemy. you are practically pointed at where to fight.

insurgency is great, its the most unique thing about this mod. people just have to adapt to it and start thinking like insurgents and not liek L337 SpEc OpS.

[Robbi]

Insurgents have so many cool toys at their disposal, IEDs, Bomb cars, IMO one of the most accurate guns on the game with the lee enfield...

Plus its more fun!

Need better new maps tbh, or incorporate insurant mode into already existing maps like muttrah etc....

INS = Epic Win!

[sunshine1991]

insurgency rocks

its the players that are problem. for every person who complains about the insurgents being outclassed in every way, i ask how do you think it is in real life? should we start giving the insurgents scopes, t90s, havoks, and APCs to start evening things up? wouldnt it then at that point be coalition versus MEC with different camo? and then wouldnt it not really be project REALITY?

insurgents in real life have iron sights. get over it. dont engage far away targets. in a map like ramiel theres literally thousands of good places to hide and ambush, you dont need a scope. also insurgents dont have too many people with degrees in medicine, so dont ***** about not having medics.

insurgents were given unlimited tickets for a reason. you ARE supposed to be cannon fodder, but that doesnt mean you cant make the coalition bleed in the process, and defend your caches doing so. the big maps are great, the bigger the better. its shows on the map where YOU are supposed to defend, and the coalition usually gets intelligence on where THEY are supposed to look, so i dont know how in the world people say the big maps make it too hard to get in contact with the enemy. you are practically pointed at where to fight.

insurgency is great, its the most unique thing about this mod. people just have to adapt to it and start thinking like insurgents and not liek L337 SpEc OpS.

you 100% RIGHT ! INS cool a they are but for FUN and FAIR gameplay every kit should have FIELD or make some DOCTOR class that can be reqested (3 kit per TEAM ) becouse the game MORE REALISTCK THEN REALITY ! WTF ?
in real life u not die from fall 2-3 miters or from 1 bullet u can close the bleeding by piss of ur T-short.

[Caboosehatesbabies]

INS.. Bah..

Its like.. Fail..

Spawn, get shot, bleed out
Spawn, get shot by teammate, bleed out.
Spawn, get blown upp by OPFOR.
Spawn, Miss evry single shot on a stationary target 20 meters away from you, get shot, bleed out.
Spawn, Get lost, Get sniped.

I realy dont like insurgency.

You're doing it wrong!

[Scot]

insurgency rocks

its the players that are problem. for every person who complains about the insurgents being outclassed in every way, i ask how do you think it is in real life? should we start giving the insurgents scopes, t90s, havoks, and APCs to start evening things up? wouldnt it then at that point be coalition versus MEC with different camo? and then wouldnt it not really be project REALITY?

insurgents in real life have iron sights. get over it. dont engage far away targets. in a map like ramiel theres literally thousands of good places to hide and ambush, you dont need a scope. also insurgents dont have too many people with degrees in medicine, so dont ***** about not having medics.

insurgents were given unlimited tickets for a reason. you ARE supposed to be cannon fodder, but that doesnt mean you cant make the coalition bleed in the process, and defend your caches doing so. the big maps are great, the bigger the better. its shows on the map where YOU are supposed to defend, and the coalition usually gets intelligence on where THEY are supposed to look, so i dont know how in the world people say the big maps make it too hard to get in contact with the enemy. you are practically pointed at where to fight.

insurgency is great, its the most unique thing about this mod. people just have to adapt to it and start thinking like insurgents and not liek L337 SpEc OpS.

Someone give this man a cookie.

[gazzthompson]

from 1 bullet u can close the bleeding by piss of ur T-short.

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charliegrs is right 100%.

the problem people find is , FIGHT LIKE A INS !! not like a conventional army soldier !!!!

use hit and run
engage very far away quickly or go for kills in CQB
you are not meant to have a positive K/D
IED's and car bombs !!!
work as a large group !!!
ect ect

[Alex6714]

insurgency rocks

its the players that are problem. for every person who complains about the insurgents being outclassed in every way, i ask how do you think it is in real life? should we start giving the insurgents scopes, t90s, havoks, and APCs to start evening things up? wouldnt it then at that point be coalition versus MEC with different camo? and then wouldnt it not really be project REALITY?

insurgents in real life have iron sights. get over it. dont engage far away targets. in a map like ramiel theres literally thousands of good places to hide and ambush, you dont need a scope. also insurgents dont have too many people with degrees in medicine, so dont ***** about not having medics.

insurgents were given unlimited tickets for a reason. you ARE supposed to be cannon fodder, but that doesnt mean you cant make the coalition bleed in the process, and defend your caches doing so. the big maps are great, the bigger the better. its shows on the map where YOU are supposed to defend, and the coalition usually gets intelligence on where THEY are supposed to look, so i dont know how in the world people say the big maps make it too hard to get in contact with the enemy. you are practically pointed at where to fight.

insurgency is great, its the most unique thing about this mod. people just have to adapt to it and start thinking like insurgents and not liek L337 SpEc OpS.

I agree, but there are tons of insurgents in real life so really there should be a lower spawn time and more spawn locations/cars etc...


But I won´t be cannon fodder with the same spawn time or more than the enemy, that just doesn´t work at all.