360 Controller?

[ELDoRo]

First off I know everyone says the keyboard and mouse are more accurate than a console controller could ever be. However, I think I'm usually better on console games and was just wondering if anyone uses a 360 controller while playing BF2/PR?

[Caboosehatesbabies]

I think there are to many buttons to slave them to a controller.

[VoXiNaTiOn]

I remember someone talking about how they used a 360 controller with it set up like Ace Combat, however I stick with my joystick (and PS3 but lets keep this on-topic.)

I attempted to use my Remote Control Heli's Remote for PR flying, not for combat, just for having a little fun with some jets, however I got no luck. It would be interesting to have a go on a 360 controller and see what it was like, but I'd guess it's just like most things where you just need to get used to it.

[Mora]

You will need the drivers for the 360 xbox controller. I dont know where you can get them though. I think it will be possible. As i can use my older xbox controller for jets or choppers with XBCD.

[ELDoRo]

I gave it a try on vanilla BF2 single player. I liked crouch, prone, reload, stuff like that but the aiming seemed a bit off. It was almost like it was snapping to coordinates where I couldnt put the cursor right on certain points. I might keep it hooked up for driving vehicles. I havnt flown choppers in awhile but it might be good for that too.

btw: XP service pack 3 includes the 360 controller drivers.

[Tirak]

I remember someone talking about how they used a 360 controller with it set up like Ace Combat, however I stick with my joystick (and PS3 but lets keep this on-topic.)

I attempted to use my Remote Control Heli's Remote for PR flying, not for combat, just for having a little fun with some jets, however I got no luck. It would be interesting to have a go on a 360 controller and see what it was like, but I'd guess it's just like most things where you just need to get used to it.

That would be me. For infantry combat, nothing beats keyboard and mouse. For vehicles, unless I'm trying to drive at a specific speed, it's still keyboard and mouse. Flying on the other hand, 360 controller works wonderfully. You've got enough buttons to map to all the right keys and if you're like me and have played a lot of flight games on an Xbox, it's much easier to get a handle on. I honestly cannot get how people fly with keyboard and mouse.

[Solid Knight]

It would be severely limited in what you can bind to it. You'd have to forget about binding your weapons to a button thus forcing you to scroll through them each time. However you can get the basics down pretty good.

[Tirak]

It would be severely limited in what you can bind to it. You'd have to forget about binding your weapons to a button thus forcing you to scroll through them each time. However you can get the basics down pretty good.

A 360 Controller has 14 buttons and 3 axis's... How is that not enough?

[Solid Knight]

A 360 Controller has 14 buttons and 3 axis's... How is that not enough?

Keys used in BF2:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Tab, Q, W, E, R, T
Caps Lock, A, S, D, F, G, H, J, K
Shift, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M
Crtl, Space
Page Up, Page Down

Mouse 1, Mouse 2, Mouse Scroll, Mouse Axis Y, Mouse Axis X

That's just off the top of my head. There's more.

[Tirak]

Keys used in BF2:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Tab, Q, W, E, R, T
Caps Lock, A, S, D, F, G, H, J, K
Shift, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M
Crtl, Space
Page Up, Page Down

Mouse 1, Mouse 2, Mouse Scroll, Mouse Axis Y, Mouse Axis X

That's just off the top of my head. There's more.

How many do you use for Aircraft?

[Celestial1]

Keys used in BF2:

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9
Tab, Q, W, E, R, T
Caps Lock, A, S, D, F, G, H, J, K
Shift, Z, X, C, V, B, N, M
Crtl, Space
Page Up, Page Down

Mouse 1, Mouse 2, Mouse Scroll, Mouse Axis Y, Mouse Axis X

That's just off the top of my head. There's more.

And now that's narrow that down.

1, 2, 3, 4, 5 (I believe this is all the weapons in any jet, including bombers, could be wrong. Also could just map 2 keys: for 1, and F, or even some frequently used weapon-switches)
W (Map to pulling L or R trigger on back)
A, D (Map to bumpers on top)
Mouse up/left/down/right (All mappable to thumbstick)
Shift (Map to button)
X (Map to button)
Ctrl (Can it be used? Map to thumbstick push?)
Mouse1, Mouse2 (Mouse1 to open trigger, Mouse2 to button?)

Now, I think that covers most anything. There's (not including the weapons AT ALL) 4 non-movement triggers [Shift, X, Mouse1/2, and 5 if you add ctrl]. There's 4 buttons on a 360 controller, perfect for their use if you so wish.

All pitch/roll control can be mapped to a thumbstick's axises. Yaw control can be done either through the second thumbstick, or the 2 bumpers.

That leaves 2 thumbstick push buttons, an up-down on one thumbstick, possibly a single button, both select and start, and a trigger or use, that have not even been considered.


I probably missed something, but that's MORE than enough for use on a controller. People who have played Ace Combat etc are probably better off. Is there a way, perhaps, to set up wireless 360 controllers to your computer?

[Solid Knight]

Awesome, but he wanted to know about using the controller for all aspects of the game and not just a jet.

[Celestial1]

I gave it a try on vanilla BF2 single player. I liked crouch, prone, reload, stuff like that but the aiming seemed a bit off. It was almost like it was snapping to coordinates where I couldnt put the cursor right on certain points. I might keep it hooked up for driving vehicles. I havnt flown choppers in awhile but it might be good for that too.

He said that the aiming was wonky as infantry.

Therefore, my post addressed jets (the most control-heavy vehicles in game) and how they are able to be set up with 360 controllers.

You can change buttons and such for whatever vehicle you're in (when you're in a land vehicle, WASD controls could be applied to left thumbstick (W and S to triggers as well), mouselook to right thumbstick, trigger or button to fire, change weapon modes, etc etc etc.

Helicopters can be set to such and such, so on and so forth.

[Tirak]

Trigger Axis is W and D
Left Stick is Pitch and Roll
Left Bumper and Right Bumper are Yaw
A is Primary Weapon
B is Secondary Weapon
X is Weapon Switch
Y is Squad VOIP
START is Map
BACK is Eject/Enter (But Mainly Eject)
D-Pad Up is CO VOIP
D-Pad Down is 1
D-Pad Left is Zoom Map
D-Pad Right is ... ... Dunno
Left Stick Button is Flares
Right Stick Button is After Burner

What more do you need?

[Dunehunter]

This is pretty sweet, might look into this.

2 questions:

-I have a couple of regular 360 controllers, do I just buy something so I can use them on my computer?
-Does this work with Vista?

[Spaz]

I been thinking of doing this for ages, I may have to try it out now

[Celestial1]

This is pretty sweet, might look into this.

2 questions:

-I have a couple of regular 360 controllers, do I just buy something so I can use them on my computer?
-Does this work with Vista?

1) As long as they are not wireless, they should plug right in through a USB port. If they are wireless, you need to buy a 'Microsoft Wireless 360 controller adaptor' kind of thing.

2) I assume so; XP's SP3 had it, and it should be integrated into Vista. However, it seems that it doesn't always flow right in Vista, so if your computer doesn't recognize the controller immediately, go here and choose controllers; xbox 360 windows controller; etc etc. to get the drivers.

[Tirak]

This is pretty sweet, might look into this.

2 questions:

-I have a couple of regular 360 controllers, do I just buy something so I can use them on my computer?
-Does this work with Vista?

1. If they're wired, go to Microsoft's Website and simply download the drivers, if they're wireless, you may need to either buy the specialized adapter as earlier mentioned, but I believe if you have a wireless card and the right drivers you can still make it work.

2. Yes, it works on Vista as well, at least in my experience so far.

[Begbie]

1. If they're wired, go to Microsoft's Website and simply download the drivers

Vista finds the drivers automatically through windows update.

[hexhunter]

For people with PS3 controllers, there is a 3rd party driver you can use with PCs (XP and vista I believe).

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Unfortunately nobody has released a version which is wireless or has Dualshock/Sixaxis compatibility, I'm sure that Sony will release a driver one day.