Su-25 Frogfoot Vs. A-10 Warthog

[hiberNative]

The Su-25 too has a Titanium cockpit, it can travel a little above Mach 1 in speed while the A-10 will stop dead around 400, also it's true that the Su-25 does not have main canon thats as impresive as the A-10 but it's canon still can tear metal through tanks, and it also compensates by being able to carry much more weight in weapons, bombs, rocket, etc....

Whats that i hear about the Su-25 not being very precise like the A-10, I think you guys never heard of the Su-25KM "scorpion", this model is as precise as any A-10 can be (just by updating the cockpit and avionics system), I Believe the Su-25KM can beat an A-10 any day of the week

interesting! and welcome to the forums!
checked that craft out on youtube:



keywords: "outstanding russian platform" <3

[Ome99]

Didnt realise the a10 was that slow, does that apply in game?

No not really, both A-10 and Su-25 are made nearly even in all capabalities in the game to make it fairer for both teams.

Also, thank you hiberNative for welcoming me to the forum

[Hotrod525]

The A10 ingame only carry 500 rounds.

[Alex6714]

The A10 ingame only carry 500 rounds.

It carries the real amount iirc, just using batch sizes and such, so the ammo count has to be lowered.

[Sabre_tooth_tigger]

Does weight change top speed


wiki says its 518mph vs 590mph between the two

[Ome99]

Does weight change top speed


wiki says its 518mph vs 590mph between the two

Yes it does, the Su-25 can get to Mach 1 speed, given that it unloaded all of the weapons on the wings (beside the man canon or its ammo), however the A-10 can not do that even if it unloaded all the wings weapons (becasue it's main canon, which can't be unloaded beside for maintanince is to damn gigantic).

Another factor contributing to this, is that while both jets have 2 engines, the Su-25 engines are more powerfull.

[Sabre_tooth_tigger]

I think aerodynamics and all that stuff is more important then absolute power and weight. I dont know the related air resistance equations though

It does say maximum speed is .82 mach though, maybe you should try editing the wiki and argue it out with them

the Cd factor varies with speed, in a way dependent on the nature of the object.

In general, above Mach 0.85 the drag coefficient climbs to a value several times higher at Mach 1.0, and then comes down again at higher speeds, tending to a value perhaps 30% higher than that at subsonic speeds. This is due to the creation of shockwaves which generates wave drag.

[Ome99]

hmmm, intresting but thats my information source bellow, maybe i should not have trusted it much

here is the first part, i dont remember in which part a US former pilot that Su-25 can go a bit above Mach 1

[steve_06-07]

The A-10 was designed for surviveability, the SU-25 was designed for speed to get out of a hot zone. The Su-25 can run on both Jet Fuel and Diesel. The A-10s gatling gun is "the largest cannon ever put onto an aircraft". The A-10's titanium bathtub around the cockpit can withstand 25/30 mm shells. Each aircraft is superior in their own special ways, but when it comes to weaponry and armor, A-10 wins hands down. The Su-25 is okay, later models like the Su-39 have more improvements and can carry better weapons that the Su-25, plus they have been modified to have a higher survivale rait against MANPADS and Shells, though not nearly as much as the A-10.

[Dunehunter]

The A-10 was designed for surviveability, the SU-25 was designed for speed to get out of a hot zone. The Su-25 can run on both Jet Fuel and Diesel. The A-10s gatling gun is "the largest cannon anyone ever built an aircraft around". The A-10's titanium bathtub around the cockpit can withstand 25/30 mm shells. Each aircraft is superior in their own special ways, but when it comes to weaponry and armor, A-10 wins hands down. The Su-25 is okay, later models like the Su-39 have more improvements and can carry better weapons that the Su-25, plus they have been modified to have a higher survivale rait against MANPADS and Shells, though not nearly as much as the A-10.

I know, I know, semantics.

[mp5punk]

wow that gun is huge.

[Ome99]

The A-10 was designed for surviveability, the SU-25 was designed for speed to get out of a hot zone. The Su-25 can run on both Jet Fuel and Diesel. The A-10s gatling gun is "the largest cannon ever put onto an aircraft". The A-10's titanium bathtub around the cockpit can withstand 25/30 mm shells. Each aircraft is superior in their own special ways, but when it comes to weaponry and armor, A-10 wins hands down. The Su-25 is okay, later models like the Su-39 have more improvements and can carry better weapons that the Su-25, plus they have been modified to have a higher survivale rait against MANPADS and Shells, though not nearly as much as the A-10.

about the pilot protection
The Su-25 has a titanium "bathtub" around the cockpit too, which it's too can stand battering of 30mm shells, watch the video on the link I posted in my prevous post, it's a documentary about the Su-25

[steve_06-07]

Ohhh...well then, I'm at a loss, I still think the A-10, especially the new C version, is better.

[Ome99]

Speaking of Good jets, this video shows a russian Su-25 on a sortie in Georgia, although georgians have the more advanced Su-25Km this shows the final results allways depend on performance of pilots:



[you might have to watch the video more than once to make any sence, just goes to show the levels of concentration and split second decisions pilots have to make]