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Donrhos

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Join Date: Oct 2007
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You sir, just woke the dragon up. That's got to be worth some warning points.

I support TG's member kicking policies, but I don't support their overbearing and at times needlessly aggressive and unfairly authoritarian ("Stop talking back or I'll kick you...") admins.

While TG is a great server because of its strict rules, I'm sure all of us have been on the wrong end of kicks over misunderstandings or for "talking back" when we were explaining how we didn't break the rules.

[Donrhos]

So if i get you correct, my opinion is not as important as yours because you have more posts?
If you read my post again you will see what i was refering to.
I did not meen that he could not express his point of view on the SM kick, i think it's a poor choice of words.
He can rant the sm kick for all i care, but i dont think its going to change.
And i hope it doesnt.

[google]

So if i get you correct, my opinion is not as important as yours because you have more posts?

To the contrary,I think he was saying that your post was more valuable than most becuase you haven't posted in so long, thus you choose the post when you feel it is necessary. This then, makes your post slightly more valuable.

But yes Mp5punk, please be a bit more mature and not use the word gay in a derogatory way. It is an improper use of the word.

[llPANCHOll]

I love the Supporting Member Kick.. but don't have any issue with his use of the word "GAY"... He is obviously not making a Homosexual Refrence... Seems we are taking PC a little far here.

[Donrhos]

To the contrary,I think he was saying that your post was more valuable than most becuase you haven't posted in so long, thus you choose the post when you feel it is necessary. This then, makes your post slightly more valuable.

But yes Mp5punk, please be a bit more mature and not use the word gay in a derogatory way. It is an improper use of the word.

Oh, if that is the case i apologize.

[drs79]

It would be interesting to see if those who posted complaints actually know what it costs to run a server, a business or anything along those lines. Realitymod.com has a monthly quota it has to fulfill to keep testing/coding/creating new versions of PR.

the .com at the end of a website doesn't stand for commonly used or community. Though like TG, TTP, ThorsBrigade, IGI, ABA, they are communities, it is still in a sense a company, which needs to survive and survives on the donations that people pledge to support it. In some cases those who choose to donate are given reserve slots that enable them to enter servers at any given time day or night, full or empty.

[fubar++]

Negative feedback here for sure.

Worst server administration so far I have encountered according what happened today. I haven't had any problems on the server before but today how it was admined was just horrible. Some people were ranting for reasons they thought justified and when I started to make arguments for other behalf they just started mud-slinging (names like homo, fag etc.). When that ended I was asking apc driver several time to stop as it was damaged and I was engineer near by but he just kept on driving around, and soon went down. Then admin told me not to disrespect other players with my comments - yes I called that driver an idiot have to confess. I asked the admin to ban me and he did. And why I asked? Don't want to play on server like that, ever. What has got into you there?

Hope the ban sticks.

Edit: In-game nick Pfc Heintie[13thMEU]

[Sabre_tooth_tigger]

Sounds more like a complaint about a player to me.

The server has not been full recently, any time it isnt full the quality of players drops as it starts to include far more random vanilla types who may not realise what pr is even, get confused, frustrated and do all sorts of ****

For example the deviation on rockets is high if you dont use the sights. IVe seen people tk themselves then come angrily to tk someone in revenge for a death they dont understand

[fubar++]

Sounds more like a complaint about a player to me.

This is not complaint about just one player. There were more than one and the overall athmosphere on the server was more like vanilla servers usually. When there's admin present allowing that and banning for secondary reasons it isn't very impressive.

[drs79]

This is not complaint about just one player. There were more than one and the overall athmosphere on the server was more like vanilla servers usually. When there's admin present allowing that and banning for secondary reasons it isn't very impressive.

I asked the admin to ban me and he did.

I have to agree with sabre, it sounds like a player complaint that went a bit haywire........but then again you asked to be banned.....i've never heard of anyone asking to be banned before.....

[fubar++]

I have to agree with sabre, it sounds like a player complaint that went a bit haywire........but then again you asked to be banned.....i've never heard of anyone asking to be banned before.....

Yes, I wanted to know if admin will ban just on request. He did and I'm happy with that - this kind of server I don't want to play.

[drs79]

Yes, I wanted to know if admin will ban just on request. He did and I'm happy with that - this kind of server I don't want to play.

good for you.

[Portable.Cougar]

I'm an admin at TG if you ask me to ban you I will happly take care of that.

We run a very popular server. The slot you take can be used for a new player to enjoy. Thanks for helping us allow new players to join.

[d1sp0sabl3H3r0]

Negative feedback here for sure.

Worst server administration so far I have encountered according what happened today. I haven't had any problems on the server before but today how it was admined was just horrible. Some people were ranting for reasons they thought justified and when I started to make arguments for other behalf they just started mud-slinging (names like homo, fag etc.). When that ended I was asking apc driver several time to stop as it was damaged and I was engineer near by but he just kept on driving around, and soon went down. Then admin told me not to disrespect other players with my comments - yes I called that driver an idiot have to confess. I asked the admin to ban me and he did. And why I asked? Don't want to play on server like that, ever. What has got into you there?

Hope the ban sticks.

I banned you.

First, here's the chat log from the server:

36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:08:28] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMneed more pilots
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:08:44] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM says the homo
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Team [11:08:53] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHEY ALL
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:09:07] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMyou want to be my homo firend?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:09:13] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMWow
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:09:14] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMfriend
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:09:17] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMLook at all the pilots w have
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:09:21] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMno i will shoot you in the face
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:09:31] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwhat do you care its just a game
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:09:43] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM i like to win
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:09:46] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMYeah, I like to win
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:09:47] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsome kind of idiot there
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:09:56] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMWhen everyone is a pilot
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:09:58] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM need to be quiet fool
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:09:58] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMWe cannot win
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:10:02] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM you play to lose ?
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:10:07] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMyou started it retard
13 |TG-Irr|_Elemanoel 1 Team [11:10:07] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXSQ1 ... r u going to atack north?
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:10:09] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM and you call me an idiot ?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:10:13] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMStop fighting
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:10:15] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMYou're both idiots
18 Znakes 2 Team [11:10:18] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMCOBRA AA DOCKS!!!!
24 FullKonTacT 2 Team [11:10:32] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMFFS guys! Get out the damn unneeded helos!
18 Znakes 2 Team [11:10:36] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMUnkown location
24 FullKonTacT 2 Team [11:10:40] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMRetards....
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Global [11:10:40] !report caetan tking for helis
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:10:45] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwho the landed a little bird on commander station
6 -=BF_Krisu=- 1 Global [11:11:00] ?nextmap
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:11:00] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMSorry mate
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:11:18] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMGot a bad marker from our spotter
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Global [11:11:19] Op Ghost is next
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:11:28] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM theres alot of crying going on...I thought tactical gamer was a premier server
10 Kiereli 2 Squad [11:11:30] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADVodnik 165
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:11:37] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMIt is.
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:11:40] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMWhen the admins are on
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:11:44] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMEarly morning
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:11:46] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMIdiots come to play
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:12:00] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMidiots or in force
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:12:26] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMi need a pick up little bird
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:12:43] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMits a game give it a brake go for some gay hunting if you want real life
18 Znakes 2 Global [11:12:48] * I GOT FOCKING BASERAPED!!
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Squad [11:12:59] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADit healed up
18 Znakes 2 Global [11:13:02] * HE HIT ME ON THE BLOODY CARRIER
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:13:02] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMYou're likely like...14 years old mate
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:13:13] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMNamecalling, insults, uh..
10 Kiereli 2 Squad [11:13:14] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADcodnik down
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:13:17] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMim 64 actually
21 Treadstone425 1 Squad [11:13:18] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXreloading sry
10 Kiereli 2 Team [11:13:19] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMvodnik
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:13:26] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwhat does it matter?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:13:27] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMClaiming you're super old...Yeah. Kiddies
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Team [11:13:36] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXGuys break it up.
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:13:36] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMKids = Idiots and general smack
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Team [11:13:42] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXyour being idiots yourselfs atm
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:13:44] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMand how old are you? show some ids
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:13:55] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMSo you do not deny being a kid? Some kids are mature
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:13:55] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM i left my id at home
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:13:58] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMMature = Older people
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:14:00] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM Pfc shut the fuck up
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [11:14:02] *** WARNING: *=LP=* Blackie_RSA, your language is unacceptable. Please keep it clean.
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:14:04] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMcan i still play'
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:14:05] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMKids = Immature = Idiotd
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:14:11] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMthis is why i quit playing COUNTER STRIKE BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE U 2 THAT ARGUE
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:14:24] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMd
34 TimWall 1 Squad [11:14:27] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADwtf
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:14:28] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMi dont deny anything just chatting with you
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:14:43] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsquad 1 can i get invite
8 *=LP=* Blackie_RSA 2 Team [11:14:48] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM go get some friends and chat with them please shut up now
12 pilot) Brotigan 2 Team [11:14:51] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMAA at B5
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:14:57] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMOuch
24 FullKonTacT 2 Global [11:15:02] COBRA?!?!
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:08] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMIt wasent me!
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:15:09] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMyou started this non sense
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:15:15] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsquad 1 unlock plz
13 |TG-Irr|_Elemanoel 1 Team [11:15:15] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMSQ1 .. how is it?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:19] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHeintie, please just drop it already
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:15:25] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwhy?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:25] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMI can get over it and simply drop the convo
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:33] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMIf you keep talking about it people will continue to argue/bicker
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:48] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMBesides, general convo is considered spam in TG
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:15:51] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMif you dont have arguments left you want to stop it right?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:52] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMWhich is a kickable offense
5 ukwf crp.ToboSSS 2 Team [11:15:58] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMthanks zhankes for stealing my M249 NOOB!
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:15:59] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMI'm kinda busy gunning the cobra mate
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:16:02] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMI'm done talking to you
17 99Lynx 2 Global [11:16:05] sorry
16 Valtasar 1 Team [11:16:10] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMEnemy FB B4 kp1
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:16:10] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMso stop it
18 Znakes 2 Team [11:16:11] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMI didnt I requested it
18 Znakes 2 Team [11:16:22] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMYou know it dissepear after a while
5 ukwf crp.ToboSSS 2 Team [11:16:35] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAM haha i saw you pick it up
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Global [11:16:39] Hey Dobsky
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Global [11:16:46] Fools road round ftw
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Global [11:16:47] :P
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:16:56] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMdrop a crate on the deck
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:17:08] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMdrop a crate
24 FullKonTacT 2 Team [11:17:13] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMNeed supply drop @ North City
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:17:14] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMthanks
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:17:22] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXCobra got stung, AA spotted near East City Center
12 pilot) Brotigan 2 Team [11:17:23] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwhat for?
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:17:27] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXUse caution
12 pilot) Brotigan 2 Team [11:17:33] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMyou got a firebase there
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:18:35] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMapc stp
10 Kiereli 2 Squad [11:18:43] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUADvodnik down
29 |TG-6th|.A.Wickens 1 Team [11:18:48] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMnice punish for the accidental TK
29 |TG-6th|.A.Wickens 1 Team [11:18:53] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMvery smart
24 FullKonTacT 2 Team [11:18:54] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMALL inf should be in North City right now!
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:18:58] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMFight guys fight
21 Treadstone425 1 Squad [11:18:59] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_SQUAD
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:19:00] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMi need a crate on the roof of hotel
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:19:03] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMapc retard driver stop so i can fix you
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:19:04] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMThey are all over the firebase
29 |TG-6th|.A.Wickens 1 Team [11:19:10] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMwe dont actually do that on this server, hence the mature theme
11 Sgt-Pepper3 2 Team [11:19:10] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMok
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:19:11] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMnk87 drop me on the roof of hotel
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:19:13] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMthe ARE all over FB
24 FullKonTacT 2 Global [11:19:23] GUYS! Rules state no suicide tactics and running over units deliberatly in a forklift is against the rules
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:19:33] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMreverse here pls
1 Marlboro_Man{se} 1 Global [11:19:34] * what
1 Marlboro_Man{se} 1 Global [11:19:42] * u are roadkill
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:19:50] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMapc come here
20 nk87 2 Team [11:19:57] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMHUD_CHAT_DEADPREFIXtoo hot LZ
44 Cpt John_Crower 1 Global [11:19:59] that's bull...running people over is a regular tactic...in a car
30 ArPeeGee 2 Team [11:20:01] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMFirebase under heavy HEAVY fire
44 Cpt John_Crower 1 Global [11:20:08] with chopper, that's a different story
29 |TG-6th|.A.Wickens 1 Team [11:20:15] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMno its against the rules stop it or be reported
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:20:18] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMare you an idiot come here so i can fix you!!
50 RasdenFasden 2 Global [11:20:21] * Chopper fell on my head
50 RasdenFasden 2 Global [11:20:24] * Ouch
24 FullKonTacT 2 Team [11:20:28] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMAPC to norh city NOW!!
27 Dan_B_Cooper 2 Team [11:20:31] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMneed medic
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:20:44] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMdam this server is full of morons
17 99Lynx 2 Global [11:20:58] pfc henties a fag
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [11:21:03] *** WARNING: 99Lynx, your language is unacceptable. Please keep it clean.
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [11:21:10] KICKING!!! 99Lynx for a Language Violation!
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Team [11:21:12] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMyes im am how about you?
10 Kiereli 2 Team [11:21:33] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMnice flying
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [11:21:59] WARNING!!! Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] DO NOT DISRESPECT OTHER PLAYERS
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Global [11:22:12] hahaa ban me
40 Col L.Murphy[2RA] 2 Team [11:22:16] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMlol @ dan
29 |TG-6th|.A.Wickens 1 Global [11:22:23] i hope so
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [11:22:29] §3[Admin: cola88] ok
-1 Admin None ServerMessage [11:22:29] BANNING!!! Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] You asked for it - here you go
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:22:32] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsorry
33 Dave_Bowman314 2 Team [11:22:33] HUD_TEXT_CHAT_TEAMsorry
29 |TG-6th|.A.Wickens 1 Global [11:22:34] hooray
36 Pfc Heintie[13thMEU] 2 Global [11:22:36] thanks

I've taken the liberty to highlight your text to point out the fact that you cannot seem to address anyone without throwing in some type of derogatory word describing them. Granted, you weren't the only one, but you persisted in antagonizing others and prolonging whatever disagreement you seemed to have with them.

I've also highlighted the fact that you were warned first for your language toward others. You weren't the first to get warned for the little spat going on (which you continued to provoke, btw).

I always enjoy finding posts like yours here. I enjoy the people that go to TG, cause problems, get action taken against them by the admins (a warning in your case), push the buttons to get banned, then come here and flame the server and the admins.

It's players like you that take all the fun out of the game for others. Good riddance. I certainly hope you are not representative of all of the members of the 13thMEU.

[klappspaten_HH]

sometimes you just get what you ask for ...I guess

[=]H[=Viper]

" I always enjoy finding posts like yours here. I enjoy the people that go to TG, cause problems, get action taken against them by the admins (a warning in your case), push the buttons to get banned, then come here and flame the server and the admins. "

Even funnier is that it's usually the first thing they do once they're kicked. Like posting their version of the story here is going to magically make them right and cause an uproar in the PR community against the server. What they fail to understand is that the other players are the ones who are happiest when players like this are expelled ! They also need to understand that we have the actual logs and screens to prove them wrong 99% of the time.

[=]H[=TangFiend]

Wow Their Mr. Heintie I don't think Boatright or Zylik or one of your superiors in the [13thMEU] having you show up as a guest on another server and act like that much of a toolbag. Don't bring that rubbish to our server because not only will you be banned, higherups in your clan will be notified.

Thats a good organization your in, you should represent it better.

[Oddsodz]

"higherups" in there clan are just as bad. But that's for a post somewhere else.

[drs79]

There's a reason why TG and HOG are the 2 best servers to play PR in the WORLD!, teamwork, maturity and not putting up with players like Heintie who are only playing the game for themselves, and only playing to cause trouble/disrespect and to show how tough they can be on the internet.