I thought this was Project Reality! Not Project Immaturity!

[Mr.Clauinad]

Greeting all. My name is Clauidan and I am a long time project reality player, but first time complainer. I have been playing PR since .2 when the mod was just starting out. I remember many old hands and many old players who I used to play this mod with. And I remember many a great game and many a great time I had back in the good ol' days. But now that has changed. I have not played PR .6 or .7, Because of personal Issues. So when I came back to PR for the First time in 2 years, I have to ask is this still Project Reality or has it become Project Immaturity?

The past 3 days i have encountered server after server full of Immature idiots(Not just Children) who will kick you if they can(Both by Admins and Player initiated Votekicks), Insult you, Or Just harass you to no end, because you Either said something or did something that they did not like. And I thought Griefers like Wumwuts or Spermcube were bad. But this takes the Proverbial cake! I have been kicked over the past 3 days from over 15 different servers because I wasn't playing the way that the rest of the team wanted me to. Do not misunderstand I was not Lonewolfing, Disobeying Orders, or just being a general pain in the ***. I was being what I am best. A team player.

My specialty is commanding. Yesterday i get kicked from a server because the admin does not want me to command? Yet he let's someone else do so? Then I'm votekicked from another server because I could not revive my squadleader in time? Two days ago I get banned because I'm assumed to have destroyed a friendly apc because i'm the only Rifleman Anti-Tank on the entire team. Just today I've been kicked 3 times already. This morning on Qwai after just joining, This afternoon on Kashan by my entire team for leading in points, Then and hour ago my entire squad and I are banned from Basrah because we went and repaired the Bridge and Retrieved tanks and other abandoned vehicles near the Palace? Seriously what the hell is going on here? Has Project Reality become BF2 with all the Immature Idiots running around who's only objective is to win? In the olden days no admin would kick anyone for the above, Hell even the community was alot more Mature.


So I ask you. What has become to Project Reality? The BF2 mod known for it's 1). Teamwork, 2). Mature Players, 3). Reserved and Calm Admins. I aslo ask you what has happened to all the Amazing servers like Devfile, Devil's Brigade, and such? Why has this happened? Why has the only gaming experience I have ever played with real teamwork gone away? What did someone do in order for this to occur?


P.S. Sorry for my bad english. Not a native speaker.

[DkMick]

There are two sides to every story. I'd be interested in hearing some of the other side. Not that it never happens, but I haven't encountered much of what you've described. There's twats in every game, but I haven't noticed an overabundance of them in PR. From the "tone" of your post, I suspect your interaction with your team mates was a contributing factor.

[Skodz]

kicked from 15 servers in the last 3 days... No offense dude but that sound odd.

I play PR a lot and I don't remember last time I got kicked... Last time one of my teammate was kicked was because he did not respected a server rule, we apologized and everything was ok...

although, I did saw some teamkilling but thats always been and its always gonna be...

[daranz]

A lot of servers in PR don't have mutiny voting, and instead rely on admins to kick bad commanders in necessary. That is, to say, not commanders that are bad at commanding, but commanders that take the position and become a hindrance to the team by, for example, not allowing any build orders, ever. I'm not saying that you were a bad commander, but even something like being AFK in the commander seat can be a reason for kick because it screws the team over.

Some servers have strict rules regarding base rape, asset assignment, etc. A lot of them are actively adminned. You need to be familiar with the rules, or else you might get kicked. Of course, sometimes admins make mistakes, too. People look at their map, see you are the closest to the enemy main, and automatically assume you must be the one shooting a their main (even if you aren't). Such mistakes can happen.

As to votekicks, I can't really give you any advice other than play on a better server. Where are good servers in PR, and then there are **** servers. A lot of servers are actively adminned, though, and a lot of servers usually have mature players on them, so I suggest you try to find one that fits you.

[=]H[=TangFiend]

15 servers? O.0 you should post the server names, Thats a huge chunk of the PR community. I am sure respective admins could compare logs and notes into the facts.

[flickflackingfligger]

Damn, what servers do you play on? As the previous posts allready said, havent seen any inmaturity at all and i do play pr alot too But I think the game itself weeds out the douchbags cause they dont get the game. Go to Chicago, 10th mountain, blackwater, they run awsome servers! (sry if didnt write all my favorites )

See You In Da Field!

[fuzzhead]

hi Mr.Clauinad welcome to the pr forums!

sad to hear you had some bad experiences.. what is your in game name?

what servers have you been to and which ones did you have bad experiences with?

I think you should give it another try, youll find some servers are prety friendly to new players as long as they have an open mind and dont mind listening to some orders and digging some stuff

[Outlawz7]

what has happened to all the Amazing servers like Devfile, Devil's Brigade, and such?

Devil's Brigade went back to running 0.506 a week or two ago, the thread is somewhere in this forum.

Devfile got shut down in May 2007 because when it was started people thought it's going to bring more hits to the devfile.com website, yet all the complaints were always addressed here on this board (kicks, bans etc.)so no one went to the server's website, but the last nail in the coffin was when for some reason one week in that May the server was completely empty, so the website and server host decided to shut them down.

However Devfile while being the most actively admined, populated and popular server in 0.5 was also the server with most asshats on, there was always at least 6 people teamkilling each other for the air assets, half the players on each team had political discussions over allchat, a lot of teamswitching back to USMC etc.

This issue isn't new, it's just that with more popularity the mod gained more and more players and with the slow punishing game play the overall effect of smacktards is really bad.
I suggest you play with someone you know or join a small clan or something and play on servers like TG, T&T or Thors where they have admins on.

[hiberNative]

sound strange.

maybe you acted too slow and that frustrated the squadleader? that would be my only explination from what you explained. squadleaders usally don't kick for that anyway. expecially not in the squads i play it, which usually has an extrovert squadleader.

you live in a nice place btw

[Psyko]

servers these days try their best to maintain constant gameplay. the ones that dont or give overall bad gameplay experiances become underpopulated or worse.

the game has changed since you played last.

But one things for sure. i dont think the servers kick for lack of experiance. server amins are always cautious of new players, they could be additional playerbase. so the majority of server admins investigate before making decisions.

but like it was said, 15 kick/bans in less than a week is unusual, for anyone.
three things you could do are...
read the rules.
read the manuel.
check your punkbuster.

[Spaz]

15 servers? Really? I been playing from .2 and only been banned once and that was because the admins made a mistake lol.

[TeRR0R]

Then and hour ago my entire squad and I are banned from Basrah because we went and repaired the Bridge and Retrieved tanks and other abandoned vehicles near the Palace? Seriously what the hell is going on here?

Sorry, but reparing the palace (!) bridge only to recover the tank is pretty risky. No wonder you annoyed half of the team with this action.
Although i must admit your mission was successful it's just not worth.

The second kick was because you argued in game about admin decisions, which is not allowed by our rules.

If you want to discuss these things, be welcome to our forum instead.

[BattleArena4]

Actually Terr0r is leaving something out, it was a community kick that booted you the first time. That means you were irritating someone besides admins because multiple VKs were registered.

[Blackie]

The game has changed and the good players have gone, more have come but not likethe good old ones...

every game I have I ALWAYS find a great squad and have a good time....


13 in 3 days,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,daaaaaaymn

[Tirak]

TeRRor he could've just manned the tank and spawnraped @ palace instead. -.-

But he was repairing the bridge too, though I do admit that seems like a weird reason for a community kick, I would have done it, 3 men in the tank, 2 repairing and 1 watching around the tank, taking those precautions you shouldn't have too much trouble fixing the bridge, retreating the tank and blowing the bridge behind you.

At OP: Did you signal your intentions clearly to the rest of the team. And to be frank, if you've been kicked by admins from that many servers, I have to ask for the other side of the story. How are you behaving online. What is your in game name, is it similar to a greifer and therefore people may associate you as such. And most importantly, are you sure its not a PB kick, .8 has been having many problems with that.

[BattleArena4]

Wait..it's against the rules to repair a bridge just because it would eliminate the gay advantage the coalition team gets by destroying them?

No it's not against the rules.

There were multiple players, not admins but players, asking them not to do it. Multiple players called for a vote kick. The vk got to 8 points and an admin finished him off.

While it is not against the rules to repair the bridge to island, when your teammates are shouting, "NO NO!" and you say, "I'm gonna anyway" then that just isn't teamwork at all. A compromise would have been blow the tank if you had the tickets, if you didn't have the tickets to do that you certainly don't have the tickets to defend some guy repairing a bridge.

At anyrate, let's not thread jack.

[Rudd]

Players are hardcoded anyways, come visit iGi sometime, we usually have an admin on when its populated (although we don't populate as much anymore) and we do our very best to maintain order, maintain fun and treat incidences fairly and maturely

[Tirak]

No it's not against the rules.

There were multiple players, not admins but players, asking them not to do it. Multiple players called for a vote kick. The vk got to 8 points and an admin finished him off.

While it is not against the rules to repair the bridge to island, when your teammates are shouting, "NO NO!" and you say, "I'm gonna anyway" then that just isn't teamwork at all. A compromise would have been blow the tank if you had the tickets, if you didn't have the tickets to do that you certainly don't have the tickets to defend some guy repairing a bridge.

At anyrate, let's not thread jack.

Stop me if I start crossing a line, but how many people were on the server? I know that when most kick votes come up you always get a percentage who just hit page up just to get it off the screen.

I'm not saying what he was doing was right, don't know the circumstances, but an admin finishing a kickvote that has 8 votes seems a little quick unless the sever was running very light.

[LudacrisKill]

Must be your fault im afraid. There is the chance you were really unlucky but im afriad in these cicumstances, everyone will agree, 15 servers is way to much for coincidence...