Gimpy

[Army Musician]

Quick question, what is happening regards the Gimpy? If I am not mistaken the British are still using the SAW. I appreciate that this may have been asked etc... many times.

[moj]

It's used on the Land Rover, but since it's only issued (from what I understand) for use by dedicated machine gun squads other than in fixed positions (usually 1 squad of 2 GPMG's per platoon last I heard), there isn't really any other role for it in-game. I'm under the impression IRL the Challenger 2 has 1 GPMG and not a .50-cal, guess that's to do with balance.

Anyone know for definite it's current role in the British Army?

[naykon]

I think the minimi is used more often than the gimpy thesedays, altho i know what i'd rather have

[moj]

One other thing I'm wondering about, is why it's not mounted on the Merlin and will it mounted on the Chinook in-game?

[Army Musician]

The GPMG is a section weapon, it is placed at sentry points, when in location and is a support weapon. When advancing across open ground in what we call arrowhead, then the gpmg would be at the front. In a troop 40-60men, then you have at least 4 GMPG's. On operations, the DROPS vehicles (hint hint), have GPMG mounted on a turret. It is alot easier holding onto a mounted gmpg, than holding an SA80, while doing the cross country course up in Sennybridge. (Sennybridge is a training area in the Brecon Beacons in S.Wales. Most British soldiers know of it.)
Plus better rate of fire, and if we did come under attack, officially you get out of the vehicle, however if you have a GPMG you take full advantage of it.

Though the LSW is being phased out, and it is being replaced by the GPMG. When fitted with the C2 sight it has an approximate effective range of 2km

[moj]

Cool thanks for the info So the GPMG will replace the LSW in the designated marksman role? Am I understanding ths correctly, that the DM will become a kind of combined marksman/support gunner?

[Bob_Marley]

The GPMG is a section weapon, it is placed at sentry points, when in location and is a support weapon. When advancing across open ground in what we call arrowhead, then the gpmg would be at the front. In a troop 40-60men, then you have at least 4 GMPG's. On operations, the DROPS vehicles (hint hint), have GPMG mounted on a turret. It is alot easier holding onto a mounted gmpg, than holding an SA80, while doing the cross country course up in Sennybridge. (Sennybridge is a training area in the Brecon Beacons in S.Wales. Most British soldiers know of it.)
Plus better rate of fire, and if we did come under attack, officially you get out of the vehicle, however if you have a GPMG you take full advantage of it.

The GPMG is not a section weapon, at least not officially. Current NATO regulations state that no 7.62x51mm weapons are to be organic to platoon sized formations and below. As I understand it, GPMGs are issued at company level and may be employed in a multitude of roles. How the company chooses to employ thier GPMGs is up to them, but it is not a stanard section level weapon though it is not unknown for GPMGs to be spread throughout the company rather than operating as a dedicated MG platoon.

As for DROPS its been suggested multiple times and will probably be implimented eventually, however its more or less a cosmetic change and so has low priority. Also, arming supply trucks has been suggested and the idea was not popular as it was percieved to encourage "offensive" use of supply viechles.

Though the LSW is being phased out, and it is being replaced by the GPMG. When fitted with the C2 sight it has an approximate effective range of 2km

The L86A2 LSW is not being phased out. It has been rerolled to a Designated Marksman Rifle or DMR at section level. Its certainly not being replaced with the GPMG, the weapon that it was intended to replace, though it could be argued that it only achived this on paper. The L110A1 (para) and L108A1 (full size, much less common) LMGs (both variants of the FN Mimimi) are replacing it as the section level sustained fire weapon.

[Tirak]

As for DROPS its been suggested multiple times and will probably be implimented eventually, however its more or less a cosmetic change and so has low priority. Also, arming supply trucks has been suggested and the idea was not popular as it was percieved to encourage "offensive" use of supply viechles.

When you say unpopular, I assume you just forgot to mention that this was apparently with the devs as the "Gun Truck" and other such suggestions about giving the Supply Truck some sort of weapon, seemed to be quite popular with the community as a whole. Main detracting points were concerning modeling a new vehicle and whether or not to also have a version with multiple HMGs and LMGs mounted on the bed.

[Army Musician]

Bob_Marley;871039']The GPMG is not a section weapon, at least not officially. Current NATO regulations state that no 7.62x51mm weapons are to be organic to platoon sized formations and below. As I understand it, GPMGs are issued at company level and may be employed in a multitude of roles. How the company chooses to employ thier GPMGs is up to them, but it is not a stanard section level weapon though it is not unknown for GPMGs to be spread throughout the company rather than operating as a dedicated MG platoon.

As for DROPS its been suggested multiple times and will probably be implimented eventually, however its more or less a cosmetic change and so has low priority. Also, arming supply trucks has been suggested and the idea was not popular as it was percieved to encourage "offensive" use of supply viechles.



The L86A2 LSW is not being phased out. It has been rerolled to a Designated Marksman Rifle or DMR at section level. Its certainly not being replaced with the GPMG, the weapon that it was intended to replace, though it could be argued that it only achived this on paper. The L110A1 (para) and L108A1 (full size, much less common) LMGs (both variants of the FN Mimimi) are replacing it as the section level sustained fire weapon.

Well what I have said there is what my unit have told me.

[gazzthompson]

General Purpose Machine Gun - British Army Website

In the SF role, mounted on a tripod and fitted with the C2 optical sight, it is fired by a two-man team who are grouped in a specialist Machine Gun Platoon to provide battalion-level fire support.

The GPMG can be carried by foot soldiers and employed as a light machine gun (LMG), although it has largely been replaced by the lighter 5.56 x 45mm Minimi in this role in most regiments

hope this helps

[Smuke]

Isnt this on all mounted and dismounted HMG's with UK forces?

[Eddie Baker]

Cool thanks for the info So the GPMG will replace the LSW in the designated marksman role? Am I understanding ths correctly, that the DM will become a kind of combined marksman/support gunner?

No, you are not understanding correctly. The Minimi Light Machine-Gun has replaced the LSW in the infantry fire-team/rifle section base-of-fire role. The LSW is being re-roled as a DM weapon, since it is just a heavy-barreled assault rifle.

The GPMG will just be what it always has been- a GPMG. Some infantry platoon organizations have what is called a "maneuver support section" in addition to the three rifle sections. The maneuver support section includes (or included) a GPMG in the bipod role, and the 51mm light mortar.

[Army Musician]

So in game the support gunner has a Squad Automatic weapon, is that going to change to the minimi or the gimpy

[bosco_]

The British auto rifleman has the Minimi already in 0.8?

[Rhino]

the current British Automatic Rifleman in v0.8 uses the Minimi Para....

Weapons:GB - Project Reality Guide

scroll down to "Support Weapons" and you will find the L110A1 Light Machine Gun (FN Minimi-Para), although the icon its using is not correct since the one ingame dose not have a scope on it and that icon has a scope with no texture

[moj]

No, you are not understanding correctly. The Minimi Light Machine-Gun has replaced the LSW in the infantry fire-team/rifle section base-of-fire role. The LSW is being re-roled as a DM weapon, since it is just a heavy-barreled assault rifle.

The GPMG will just be what it always has been- a GPMG. Some infantry platoon organizations have what is called a "maneuver support section" in addition to the three rifle sections. The maneuver support section includes (or included) a GPMG in the bipod role, and the 51mm light mortar.

Well yeah, that's exactly what I thought before this thread came along.

[Gaz]

Well what I have said there is what my unit have told me.

Your unit told you that a DMR (L86A2 LSW) is being replaced with a Medium Machine Gun (GMPG)? I'm guessing you went RLC

PS - 2.8km with MPF if you like to fire a GMPG(SF) like a mortar > Doing that at night with tracer makes little Gaz puke white stuff. Putting beating zones on the other side of a hill, where people think it's safe as dead ground, is comical.