just one question.. wth are the pistols?

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2006-04-27 13:56

before anything, I'M LOVING THE MOD. the issue below is just a bugging-me

i always thought (and still think) that every soldier on a war has a pistol on a compartment on its clothes! altogether with the knife.. i've seen it on movies, this kind of stuff
sooo i noticed that you guys took the pistol out of some kits.. why is that?

i love pistol, it always helps me a lot, i really liked AT having just a pistol, i like using it
but is disappointing playing as a medic, rifle ammo ends, and i'm just with the knife...

thanks for thy attention

(sorry poor english)

DangChang · Post by **DangChang** » 2006-04-27 14:20

Not every soldier is issued a pistol in real life. I'm not sure why.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-04-27 14:21

luizinhuu wrote:i've seen it on movies, this kind of stuff

This is what movies do to you.

Major Ursa Norte · Post by **Major Ursa Norte** » 2006-04-27 14:23

Realistically, not every soldier is issued a sidearm. And as far as the AT having only a pistol as their personal defense weapon, there is still some debate as to the accuracy of that.

If you are in a squad, you should have a support class and therefore you should not be without fresh ammo.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-04-27 14:25

DangChang wrote:Not every soldier is issued a pistol in real life. I'm not sure why.

probaly because pistols like any weapon, cost money. if they have a assault rifle most will not need a pistol to go with it.

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2006-04-27 16:00

yes, this is what movies do, sorry, i'm not really into war stuff (love bf2 just for the reality fun itself)

thanks

Post by **requiem** » 2006-04-27 16:12

<rant>But dudes!!! You can buy a Desert Eagle in CS, where's mine in PR!!??!?!?</rant>

PS: Chrome or Gold plz, k thnx bye.

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2006-04-27 17:12

hehehehehe
i missed it because i was a dao-12er on bf2, so i practiced pistol-long distance-kill a lot

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-04-30 11:08

Yarrr Movies !
Give me duals please ! Dual usp match like Lara got ! Yarrr!

Back to reality... mod...
Who needd pistol?
1 - bunch of guys who don't use rifles and are not running on battlefield.. like higher officers and such...
2 - group which engages target on high range and must have something to defend in close quarters... like snipers..
3 - other guys carrying so heavy stuff that full range rifle or even shortened version would be too heavy or takeing too much space... look -> AT class
I personaly love sidearms but hey... it is all about reality right?

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-04-30 11:31

About the AT kit... Does anybody know if a light SMG will be issued to them in later versions? I'm not talking anything powerful, but at the moment the pistol really has its limits, and sometimes it's a pain picking the AT class, fighting off the tank then having to run around with a pistol. I don't know what real AT troops carry, but surely it's something bigger than a light pistol?

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-04-30 11:43

I hate having a pistol, i have probaly died many many times, due to it making my inventory that tiny bit to large. The ONLY OCCATION when you need a pistol is when you either run out of amunition completely with you main gun OR you main gun magazine is empty and you need to defend yourself quickly.

IN ALL THESE OCCATIONS, THESE PROBLEMS CAN BE SOLVED BY TEAMWORK, ie other men around you, supporting each other .

PISTOL = RUN AND GUN AND POOR TEAMWORK.

sorry about large text, just felt it was the obsolute truth and we could spand another 4 pages trying to come to a similar idea (truth)

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-04-30 11:46

I have no idea about SMG... there was so many pages of the few threads already so i don't remember conclusion...
I am not sure but i think that answer was "NO"..

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-04-30 12:02

THis is slighlty off topic: I had a basic idea that assult class could replace there grenafde launcher and all their grenades wiht a single anti tank weapon (disposable if poss BUT even if not, would be hard to get ammo due to fact that Normal ammo bags Should not proivde rockets or mabey even grenades)

However a sole anti tank class could remain, with just a pistol and multilple rockets.
THE REASOn for the above is to make firefights and combat more interesting.
What a tank driver says now - "o no,here comes a single ant tank guy who is goign to take me down easily, i have little hope better get ready to bail out"
What a tank driver could be saying often (with above changges made) - "well there are 2 enemies with 2 rockets, they can take me down but it will be diffuclt for them and i still have a strong chance of stoping them"
I will not right quotes for infanty but it basically means they have an improved chance about destroying tanks because there is a hgiher chance that there is a man in their suqad with a rocket BUT it will require them to use it tactically (set up an ambush, NOT randomll firing them at range of 150 +, hoping you hit it but knowign the chance is very low!.

THERE ARE allmost NO DISADVANTAGES

the_keen_edge · Post by **the_keen_edge** » 2006-04-30 13:13

Firstly a pistol I believe is one of the most difficult weapons to fire in the world, due to the factor of recoil

Second as most have said already, only officers are given sidearms for reasons unknown to me...maybe its an expression of experience...

luizinhuu · Post by **luizinhuu** » 2006-04-30 13:21

it's true
on Band of Brothers only the officers have sidearms!
i think pistols are useful to kits who use shotguns like the engineer and the AT with dao-12 on vbf2.. long distance shooting, pistol rocks

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-04-30 13:22

what about what i said, agiain, is it wrong / right ext...
I like to see my ideas ripped apart.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-04-30 15:11

individual soldiers who feel the need can buy personal pistols (my cousin in Iraq uses a 60 year old colt .45). Spec-ops like the SEALS and MARSOC are issued pistols as well. I though NCOs were issued pistols but I guess I was mistaken.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-04-30 15:14

six7 wrote:individual soldiers who feel the need can buy personal pistols (my cousin in Iraq uses a 60 year old colt .45). Spec-ops like the SEALS and MARSOC are issued pistols as well. I though NCOs were issued pistols but I guess I was mistaken.

I would not feel the need for a pistol, If i had an assault rifle, i would not need a pistol.

the_keen_edge · Post by **the_keen_edge** » 2006-04-30 15:20

Pence wrote:I would not feel the need for a pistol, If i had an assault rifle, i would not need a pistol.

=D

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-04-30 17:20

One thing I'm pushing for, the Predator system has been canned by USMC. I'm hoping that the AT class is replaced by a dumbfire system such as the AT-4. Now they could be armed with an AT-4 and a rifle. I've seen plenty of pictures of them.

Also note the fact that the MEC is a fictional army. We could could virtually give them any loadout we see fit. China I don't know, I don't see alot of pictures of Chinese soldiers, so it could help if someone with some knowledge on China's army came to assist.