AT Class needs a PDW!!!

freebirdcjb · Post by **freebirdcjb** » 2006-05-02 17:48

This is just my opinion but I think the AT class needs something to defend itself with better than a pistol. Because a soldier with the AT capability that goes into combat can also be a rifleman. I dont know if its because of balance issues but I just want to know for my own curiosity, why just the pistol for the AT soldier?

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » 2006-05-02 17:52

removed. Wrong information

Skullening.Chris · Post by **Skullening.Chris** » 2006-05-02 17:55

Wait, I thought it was engies that were getting the SMGs? So AT does too?

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-02 18:07

If you give a AT guy a SMG, he no longer becomes a ANTI TANK, he becomes a ANTI EVERYTHING like what he is in vBF2....

It is upto your team mates to protect the AT man in your squad, and its upto the AT man to protect the squad from tanks. If this is done, you get a result of somthing called "Teamwork", which is very effective and i suggest you try it

freebirdcjb · Post by **freebirdcjb** » 2006-05-02 18:12

I understand that but when your an AT soldier, besides engaging vehicles with your squad you can not contribute to a fight with other infantry. I think they should get a carbine or a SMG with maybe 2 mags. One in the gun and one extra. So at least you can help the squad out in a firefight. Just a thought so at least the AT can contribute to infantry combat.

Skullening.Chris · Post by **Skullening.Chris** » 2006-05-02 18:14

I'd like them to have an SMG just for the sole reason of always getting rocket'd by AT guys while I'm on foot and them saying "but the pistol sucks lol" when I say plz no rockets on infantry.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-02 18:17

they can take down a tank with 1 hit (if they know where to hit), if you give them a gun then they just become the super weapon for tanks and pretty good at defending themselfs from people.

The pistol is very much improved with .3, ive been killed, and killed, manny more times with the pistol than in .25

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-05-02 18:21

PDW? U mean H&K PDW?
This is so ugly that i hope i won't meet it here ;]
In 0.3 we will meet SMG so wait for it...
Arrgghhhhh i can't wait... so please wait for us both ;>

SiN|ScarFace · Post by **SiN|ScarFace** » 2006-05-02 18:32

AT needs a SMG. And it wont be anti everything like you make it sound. PDW should be a spray and pray weapon.

You cant bank on "teamplay" to over come everything. When you get team play, which is rare, yes its sweet. Its still a pub game and pub means do what you want.

Top_Cat_AxJnAt · Post by **Top_Cat_AxJnAt** » 2006-05-02 18:32

what happened to that decent idea -
rifle man choses either ammo bag or disposable anti tnak missile
anti tank has a relodable missile launcher and a pisstol
Grenadier has m203 and usal stuff but no ammo bag cos of m203

the above = pure brilliance and i will cry my self to sleep if it is not alteast properly considered by Dev.

P.s support has either saw or GPMG and there is no spec opps but a SL class, become it when become Sl or half Sl

Post by **RikiRude** » 2006-05-02 18:33

wbat test build am i playing? i havent seen the AT with a SMG??? i kill plenty of ******* with my pistol though

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-02 18:41

SiN|ScarFace wrote:AT needs a SMG. And it wont be anti everything like you make it sound. PDW should be a spray and pray weapon.

You cant bank on "teamplay" to over come everything. When you get team play, which is rare, yes its sweet. Its still a pub game and pub means do what you want.

IF we where to give the AT class a realistic MP5 for exsample, he would be EXSTRAMLY deadly.

six7 · Post by **six7** » 2006-05-02 18:48

The dedicated AT already has a PDW. Its called the pistol, and I went 11-3yesterday on kurba dam as AT only. So don't give me this "0 Teh pist0l suXrz!" ****, because it is an effective weapon. You have to pick and choose your targets more.

@ Top CAt-There are already plans to give the rifleman class a light, dumbfire AT weapon (like the AT-4) as an option for a loadout in the future. This has been stated by the Devs many times and it would be great if you didn't waste bandwidth to whine about something they are trying to make work

SiN|ScarFace · Post by **SiN|ScarFace** » 2006-05-02 18:51

'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino']IF we where to give the AT class a realistic MP5 for exsample, he would be EXSTRAMLY deadly.

Mp5 is not a PDW. So whats your point?

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-02 18:57

SiN|ScarFace wrote:Mp5 is not a PDW. So whats your point?

you said a SMG, a MP5 is a SMG thats normaly chosen over the M4A1 by some people... the PDW is basicly a pistol from what i can see.

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-05-02 19:05

Automatic pistol... nothing more... ok... technologicly advanced but it is still automatic pistol... and i hate it since HL2.. ugly design ;>
Thou i am H&K weapons fan and i believe it is working nicely

~WPN~ Buggies · Post by **~WPN~ Buggies** » 2006-05-02 19:06

Oh lets debate this again... geez! This has been debated allready and unfortunately the devs are not going to give the AT class a rifle.

Me personally, I won't be playing AT class at all. It is my view that the pistol useless. Everyone says, "Yea that will make him all that more important, and his teammates will have to protect him." That's bull and it will not happen on 90% of the PRMM servers out there. Squad members are not going to risk there life just trying to protect ONE MAN. Mark my words... won't happen.

It just isn't going to be a fun class to play. IMO... and we are all entitled to them.

Gaz · Post by **Gaz** » 2006-05-02 19:07

woaw, calm yourselves guys. I got it wrong

Please disregard my original post. Rhino is correct in saying the Engie gets the SMG. AT still has the pistol at present.

Schiller · Post by **Schiller** » 2006-05-02 19:11

It's not very realistic to see that AT-players play AT because they like teamplay, they will only play it when a tank is very annoying and try to destroy it, after that they go back to medic.

The AT must have a descent weapon, probably the strangest and worst thing of PRMM.

Post by **Rhino** » 2006-05-02 19:13

~WPN~ Buggies wrote:Oh lets debate this again... geez! This has been debated allready and unfortunately the devs are not going to give the AT class a rifle.

Me personally, I won't be playing AT class at all. It is my view that the pistol useless. Everyone says, "Yea that will make him all that more important, and his teammates will have to protect him." That's bull and it will not happen on 90% of the PRMM servers out there. Squad members are not going to risk there life just trying to protect ONE MAN. Mark my words... won't happen.

It just isn't going to be a fun class to play. IMO... and we are all entitled to them.

ive seen manny times AT guys running arround with squads right next to me for portection. Also you are in a clan, you should easily be able to work with one of your clan mates with a small 2 man AT squad, 1 assualt, 1 AT. Also there is somthign called ingame VOIP, that is used quite alot in PRMM, so pubbies can use comms if they have a mic.