[IDEA] Doctors/Ambulances at insurgent maps

[DannyIMK]

i checked already suggested thread and it wasn't suggested before .

maybe for the insurgent faction, in urban maps there can be doctors, they are like corpsman/combat medic, but maybe more advanced (since they come from hospitals etc so maybe little better healing speed or different stuff then epipen/shock paddles ..)

and they can have also ambulances (i know that that its hardcoded to pull or do these stuff with downed soliders, but it can used as transport , and also
auto healing inside ambulance if there is doctor)

Doctors can be something like civilian, maybe they wont have grappling hooks or cellphone, they can have medic/first aid bag and stuff for reviving like epipen/shock paddles etc..
i don't know if it possible that if they heal/help insurgent they will be allowed to kill, but maybe if they are with epipen/shock paddles/medic bag
and close to insurgents they can be allowed to kill. but if they are just healing civilians or themselves they aren't allowed to be killed.

i'm not sure how real life insurgents act but i'm sure that atleast they transport wounded peoples in ambulances or something like that

[Zimmer]

A doctor wouldnt run around bunny jumping in the streets and acting like a noob he would stay at the hospital.

[Spec]

lol, congrats to your 1000th, Engineer^^

Doctor class for insurgents was in PR already, back in 0.5

[Rudd]

paramedics maybe, not doctors

but it would be stupid when an insurgent is proving supressive fire an a non-combatant heals him while he does it

the civilian already heals with field dressings, and their deployment time is reduced for .85 afaik, therefore its techically already ingame.

The problem is that the civilian class is broken, so there are no 'insurgent medics' around

[DannyIMK]

well field hospitals aren't used by insurgents , and civis can't revive and med bag would be better
there can be a mini hospital that spawn ambulances

[Neo_Mapper]

wtf medics for insurgents? they kill themselves in little red cars and you want to add some medics?
Dont like the idea sry =) <---- my opinion ;D

[Scot]

As long as the Doctor/paramedic is allowed to be killed, and not be a confused soul like the Collaborator/Civvie(whatever he is trying to be), then I'm fine with it.

[Rudd]

As long as the Doctor/paramedic is allowed to be killed, and not be a confused soul like the Collaborator/Civvie(whatever he is trying to be), then I'm fine with it.

whoa there!

if anything a doctor/paramedic must NOT be fired upon/killed! they are there to treat the wounded. Thats another problem, a doctor/paramedic should treat wounded according to need, not nationality/alliegence and therefore would need to be able to heal coalition players too.

[Tartantyco]

-How about one of the many Humanitarian Organizations that provide aid in these situations? No weapons, maybe some limitation on their movement, would be awesome if they could heal people on both sides.

[Rudd]

It would be nice, but you can't force a MSF guy ingame to give field dressings to a blufor and an opfor

[bloodthirsty_viking]

you would also have to put a big red cross on him, so he is less likely to get shot

[Tartantyco]

you would also have to put a big red cross on him, so he is less likely to get shot

-Exactly.

[the_12_gauge]

I like the idea, does the DEV's like it too???

[Zimmer]

All the guys will shoot him down since there will be paramedics running around healing coaltion forces and also telling the Insurgents where he is so when he heals the soldier 30 insurgents fucks the unlucky guy up.

[Tannhauser]

The civilian will be equipped with a Medic Bag, something similar will be included for talibans too I guess, so why make another class to do the same thing?

In my opinion :

- No to doctor, civilian includes doctors, cause.. they're civilians?
- No to Médecins Sans-Frontières, they just don't operate like that, they don't stick close to Insurgents while they're firing on NATO, they're neutral. And you can't prevent players from doing that type of healing during game, so no, not realistic at all.

Civilian (wich includes any unarmed guy, wheter it be a plumber,an artist or a paramedic/doctor) will do the job for «doctor», just wait for PR.85.

[GreedoNeverShot]

i'm not sure how real life insurgents act but i'm sure that atleast they transport wounded peoples in ambulances or something like that

The unorganized unofficial insurgent group doesn't have organized logistic system, high medical care, hospitals, or ambulances... You wouldn't see an insurgent ambulance on the battlefield, because our boys over there never fight direct firefights and let insurgents go to their hospitals. Mainly because they don't have any hospitals or ambulances. The US is the one who treats the insurgents most of the time... A prisoner who is captured or shot receives medical care and food from the US/British forces...

Insurgents don't have organized medical care. Bottom line, they should have no medic or hospitals or ambulances. They have no medical cross, because they are terrorists, not an army. They don't abide by a code of not shooting medical personnel, only the civilized people do that. They shoot anyone, whether it be medic, civilian, whoever.

As for putting a huge cross, that would make him more of a target, considering, like the Japanese, the terrorist/insurgents know the importance of corpsman and specifically would/will target them. Medics while in the Pacific would actually hide or take off the red cross rather than displaying it, because they knew their enemy didn't fight by the normal rules of war.

However the conventional armies do, but suggesting that, would be a resuggestion...

In my opinion the insurgents should have less medical care, and the conventional armies should have more then they do now.

[Dude388]

TBH, I've always wondered why the DEVs never made like two HOSPITAL buildings with a capturable flag on them (like on Korengal). You would be able to enter these buildings, and on some of the floors would be cabinets with medical supplies that heal over time (slowly of course, only a tiny bit faster than the MEDIC BAG).

Insurgents would move to these building if they are near them when injured and if they have control of them, they can receive the healing ability from them. If the Collation forces take them they will gain INTEL from them, but they don't get healing from them (to balance them in-case a squad just camps the spot keeping enemies from getting near it).

[DannyIMK]

i don't mean private hospitals just for insurgents, i mean normal hospital with normal doctors they dont even need rocks. im sure that in some cities with insurgent teams there are hospital. on urban insurgent maps like al basrah there can be hospital

for example do you hear about the attack in gaza strip? there are much ambulances most of them care civilians but maybe some take even the hamas (hamas is like insurgents) and some doctors/paramedics don't support the hamas so they arent insurgents/they don't need rocks

[Rudd]

hospitals are a resuggestion, people have already debated this in exactly this form

the problem with hospitals is that people would start fighting in them rather than just healing.

Given the number of civilians that would be in such an establishment it is unrealistic for blufor to be shooting in there, and its against the conventions of war?