[Model] Type 89

[Panzerfire]

Perphaps make a community forum for teh l33t JGSDF?

Heheh good luck there. Devs might ask for some more stuff so they can be sure this project won't die.

[Tannhauser]

good point
But I can still dream!



Ok
Maybe not

[AREM117]

I think l33t, 1337 or leet. comes from the word Elite but i dont know.

Back on topic, if the JDF do not have a Type 89 UGL could we use a M79 or HK69 or some other standalone grenade launcher.
Im at school(community collage) now on my laptop but i can work on stuff here. Im working on the Type 64 DMR now. I tried exporting the model using GMax BF2 tools but i couldn't get it top export properly.

Edit: Do I need to make a detailed UGL sight or can we use a better one. After I've optimized the models i can export them in a format that can be used by the texturer and UV mapper.

Am I just supposed to make the models for the Type 89 & 64 or do i need to make the textures cause i need to know how to do that. I have done a little UV mapping but not much.

[Tannhauser]

Didn't Chuc say we could use PR's M203 that's already modeled on the M16A4 and M4 ?
AREM117 You should follow his idea, it'll probably save you lots of time and trouble! Same goes if we use anything else already on other models, like Eotech sights, aimpoints and ACOGS.

For the textures, be sure to model with the UV mapping planned in mind so that it's easy to UVmap and texture afterwards. You should start off by modeling stuff, texturing can be done later by someone else, your work is great so far!

l33t comes from Elite that is pronounced Eleet in english, Notice Leet written with numbers is 1337 / l33t. It's a typical gamer slang of english origin

[azn_chopsticks_boi]

Nice work so far, but don't put in too much time into the components we have already like the M203, of which you can take off our current models when the time comes.

This would save you guys time in the long run, and make things much easier to do animation and its ingame already

edit: Tannhauser said it before me

[AREM117]

Type 64 w/MD33 Bipod Deployed

[AREM117]

Officer Type 89 w/ Aimpoint and Grip


Mountaineer Type 89F w/ Grip

[AREM117]

IMO the difference between a sniper and a designated marksman is their position in the squad.

Is their a pic of the Type 64 M1C/D sniper scope?

[Tannhauser]

Un sniper est un soldat spécialement entraîné et spécialisé dans les opérations de reconnaissance, d'assassinats ou de couverture à longue distance. Il a généralement l'aide d'un observateur armé d'une mitrailleuse et d'un système de caméras/lazer pour «spotter» les cibles.

Le Marksman est un soldat régulier intégré aux escouades régulières de soldats d'infanterie. Le Marksman est qualifié pour atteindre des cibles plus éloignées qu'un soldat non qualifié, mais sans pour autant avoir les capacités d'un sniper. Le marksman est toujours avec son escouade contrairement au sniper qui reste au loin, et le marksman fait souvent feu contrairement au sniper qui évite de tirer répétitivement afin de ne pas être découvert et être obligé de relocalisé. Un marksman utilise une arme semi-automatique portable comme le M14 afin de donner un bon feu de couverture pour ses équipiers tandis-que le sniper possède une arme d'ultra haute précision dont le but est le 1tir-1mort et dont la portée est bien plus grande qu'un DMR (Designated Marksman Rifle). Le sniper préfère donc souvent la précision plus que la vitesse de tir, et utilise des armes à bolt-action (je sais pas comment on le dit en francais désolé).

Les snipers portent souvent des ghilie suit (le gros manteau en forme de motte d'herbe) cars ils doivent être invisibles face à l'ennemi pour une très longue durée (certains reste sur place des jours d'affilée) et cela cache leur silhouette très éfficacement.
Un Marksman ne porte pas de Ghillie suit car il n'en a pas besoin, c'est aussi très encombrant vu qu'il doit bouger vite et réagir vite à l'ennemi.

Toutefois, ca peut différer avec la doctrine militaire Russe où les snipers peuvent parfois être intégrés aux escouades!

La photo que t'as posté, c'est un Sniper, mais son arme me rend sceptique car c'est un Type64 si je ne me trompe, peut-être est-ce un «spotter»?

Sorry for writing in a different language, I did so 162eRI could understand clearly the definition and I tought it'd make it easier like that
It seems to be a Type64 with a smaller mag and a sniper scope (can't identify it). Rather akward, it could mean that either the JGSDF doctrine for DM/Sniper is different, or that this guy is a DM. Or even could be it's a sniper using the Type64 for personal choise/training or because he's a reservist. He could be a marksman, but the ghillie suit would be an awkward choice for a DM.
But judging from the leather padding, he IS a sniper because snipers stand a long time scoping and they usualy need a padding to make it comfortable enough/to be able to aim perfectly.
(Note his ghillie suit looks REAAALLLYY cheap XD)

[Rambo Hunter]

A marksman can't have an aimpoint, IMO we should give the marksman the Type 64 with the M1C scope, and then the sniper with the M24 system.

[Tannhauser]

Agreed, Marksman MUST have a scope capable of taking out target at longer ranges, an aimpoint just can't do that and isn't meant for that anyway

[AREM117]

ok will do(the scope i meen).

Here is an M6 knife i modeled.


AFK 4 a while.

[Tannhauser]

Designated marksman version
Long range optics (scopes) can be installed on the Type-64 rifle so it can be deployed as a sniper rifle. Issuing a Type 64 sniper rifle is usually granted to the individual with the most accurate shooting proficiency in each division (a designated marksman). However, in many cases the individual may simply be issued the scope by itself to be used only during training exercises and shooting competitions, while no specific rifle is assigned to the individual himself.
The issued optics are usually set at 2.2x magnification and may either be a surplus M1C/D sniper rifle M84 scope used by the U.S. Military during World War II or a similar model produced by Nikon that replicates the M84’s magnification levels. Performance is similar to the M1C/D sniper rifle but it is only possible to set the scope to view targets at 500 meters despite the elevation knob being labeled for up to 800 meters. In addition to this, the standard aiming reticle is a simple black “T” which makes it extremely difficult to use during twilight hours or on a black target.
Some serious complaints about the accuracy of the sniper version are linked to the poorly conceived attachment system for the scope. The scope goes askew easily because it is only affixed with one screw. After the scope is mounted and the rifle is zeroed, it is imperative that it be handled carefully because it is easily jostled. Furthermore, since the scope is not usually assigned to any particular rifle it is often difficult to keep it static on any particular rifle’s receiver. This is usually corrected by installing a piece of cloth between the receiver and scope mount, but then the iron sights of the rifle are obscured. In cases like this, it is necessary to install a cheek pad to properly align the users eye with the scope.
This system is in the process of being phased out in front line units of the Ground Self-Defense Force and is being replaced with the Remington M24 sniper rifle.

Type64 M84 2.2x Scope with leather cheek-padding on the stock and bipod deployed. for Designated Marksman
Reskinned (Black) US M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS) for Sniper