Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

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Maniac302
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Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by Maniac302 »

This is supposed to be project reality, so it makes no sense why you would lose all control of an airplane when flying above 5,6000 feet. What's worse, is you can still be climbing, with no way to descend, so say hello to the out-of-bounds death.
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Solid Knight
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by Solid Knight »

You can get to 56,000ft?
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

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Does that sounds like something we would ADD?
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gclark03
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by gclark03 »

Yes. Jet pilots are very useful to their teams...IN ORBIT!

Seriously, what is the point? This is PR, not Orbiter.
HeXeY
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by HeXeY »

From what I've seen most attack jets have an max altitude around 40-50 000 feet, so you should be happy that you can fly higher...
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Outlawz7
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by Outlawz7 »

Don't fly over 5000 then.


Although I must say I like high altitudes due FPS increase :p
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PlaynCool
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by PlaynCool »

Its vbf2 issue, but after you lose control you fall 5-6 sec and you gain control again...
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torenico
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by torenico »

This is called "Stall", also engine limitations.
Cptkanito
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by Cptkanito »

Solid Knight wrote:You can get to 56,000ft?
Who said the Battlefield height units were in feet?
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SFOD_F HaXXeD
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by SFOD_F HaXXeD »

This has taken me out of bounds about 3 times, hate it but it's my own fault for going that high.
Maniac302
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by Maniac302 »

PlaynCool wrote:Its vbf2 issue, but after you lose control you fall 5-6 sec and you gain control again...
No, I recreated this on my own computer/local server. I flew up, and once I passed the limit altitude, the controls froze, and I continued to fly in the same direction, which happened to be up. I did not stall. I continued on the same heading I entered the no-control zone until I died out of bounds.

BTW, It was with the MIG, maybe others behave differently.
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CAS_117
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by CAS_117 »

wtf? Air density zero on Kashan is 5000 meters. Qinling its 2000 meters. What on earth are you talking about?

Edit: Altitude is in meters btw so you can technically operate above 10,000 feet which is plenty considering view distance is 900m.
PlaynCool
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by PlaynCool »

I dont know its probably a bug...
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by Alex6714 »

Its just how the engine works...
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SocketMan
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by SocketMan »

What was the speed?
Maybe that is part of the problem.
CAS_117
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Re: Jet controls freeze at high altitudes

Post by CAS_117 »

Its not a bug its just that air density becomes exponentially smaller as you go higher. So it was created that way by EA to prevent people from just loitering out of sight too easily. The difference is that aircraft engines to NOT push air around. They just generate a "force" in a direction through space, airflow or not. Its closer to pulling a train along a railway than a rocket engine see. The problem is that as you go higher, your engine still works, but the air friction, and wing lift, which DO use air to operate the plane, no longer have any influence, which is why you lose control. <---TLDR

1. Jet/Chopper engines don't need air to work.

2. Flaps need air.

3. Air gets thin really high.

4. Engine works but wings don't.

So the issue really isn't the air density, its how the jet engines work in BF2.
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