[Faction Proposal] Korean People's Army Ground Forces

[Tannhauser]

Lol, a zastava in the hands of the Koreans, this is rediculosly hilarious

Hey it's wikipedia, can't blame me, I ain't no specialist so..

[Glimmerman]

Here a link full of DPRK pictures and info:
DPRK(North Korea) Armed Forces thread - Military Photos

And another static:

North Korean Arc de Triomphe in Pyongyang


Unification arch

[Panzerfire]

And don't forget the lastest WMD from the North:

DEADLY CUCUMBERS!!!

[Glimmerman]

And don't forget the lastest WMD from the North:

DEADLY CUCUMBERS!!!

Those poor commies never seen one, they are all thinking where is the fuse.

[Hresvelgr]

Thanks for the link!
Their camo look like a big mixe of Pla and Russian camouflages?!
For the model player, it's clear we can't use BF2 models:
-we need a russian helmet (ask BSS other Mods).
-the PLA cap in PR can make it for the NK cap.
-NK camouflage (uniform and leaves) for the marksman, or special units.
-NK green uniforms for most of the soldiers.
-NK equipment looks like late ww2 and post war Russian equipment > leather belts, few poutches, scrabard etc...

We've already this AA weapon in PR, hurra !
http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_808653/2 ... 800_87.jpg

NKorean grenade? (weapons and gears from North Korean spy boat sunk by Japanese Coast Guard)
http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_808653/2 ... 00_142.jpg

Sounds good, but I'd rather have the camo uniforms for at least most NK soldiers. The drab seems more formal wear than battlefield wear and I've seen at least one picture of an ordinary grunt wearing it. As for vehicles, how about instead of a PT-76 use a PT-85, an indigenous design that is also more capable, we need to give them some balance here, more conventional OpFor is needed because the only new OpFor is Taliban and maybe Russia, probably not. Could also reskin the militia T-62 to look like a Chonma Ho.

[Tannhauser]

You're right about the ChonMaHo, the only problem is that the ChonMaHo has what looks like ERA on the back of the turret..
Maybe add these like the Devs added part to the BlackHawk army?

[J.F.Leusch69]

anti-air
zsu-23 shilka: nk has about 100 of these. could borrow one maybe from USI or desert combat mod and re-skin i dont think DC is a member of BSS or will give models away (for free?)
helicopters
mi-24 hind: not certain of the amount nk has, but they do use them. USI mod i believe has a model, maybe desert combat mod too. could be borrowed and re-skinned. same DC thing as mentioned
aircraft
mig 21: north korea has over 150. EOD mod has a mig 21 that could be re-skinned perhaps. i think no, cos EoD got this form AiX mod
army:
nk has the 4th largest army in the world. ... most likely new models would have to be made for nk army as none currently in PR would really suit. or maybe, an iraqi soldier model from USI or desert combat could be re-skinned as the uniforms are similar. same as mentioned above

anyway there is already a lot of work done, but i think voices and the playermodels are the biggest problem. for the maps i would like to see some huge amonut of tanks on NKs side and some small inf+mech units running away from the t-62s

[Hresvelgr]

For the aircraft, we can use this one:
http://usi.blacksandstudio.com/wp-conte ... ges/J7.jpg


Well, camo would make them more modern conventionnal army, but seeing field training pictures, they wear green uniforms, but perhaps they are currently receiving new camo uniforms? Anyway, the point is, even if they're a conventional army, it's a poor country, and badly equiped, we arn't in PR to have always symetric fights, the NK should have the same kits than other conventional army, but those kits should be less better!!! Officer or Rifleman optic kits are supposed to have optics, I don't think NKorea have modern aimpoint or scopes, perhaps few old russian scope, because I've seen none in pictures!
So I know, in PR they give to the MEC a good army, so why not the North Korean you will say me?! But I found NK army interesting because it give us the opportunity to fight differently with an old equiped army against a modern one! That's why I found the green uniform great hahahaha

I like the idea of old Russian scopes for optics, like perhaps the Mosin scope or something, I want the KPA to have all the stuff a normal conventional force has like the MEC or China because of all the new other forces, just older stuff that's the same. As for the drab, maybe kits like crewman, pilot, and engineer can have them.

And for a DMZ map, perhaps something like a reverse Hills of Hamgyong with the US/ROK defending the high ground, with at least some ground level enough for NK tank assault and the NKoreans also get faster spawn time to counter the tech and US/RoK's high ground advantage. That would be an awesome map. Only problem I remember on Hamgyong was that US was pwned if they didn't act decisive enough, too many people held back out of fear. But that's more a player problem anyways.

[charliegrs]

I like the idea of old Russian scopes for optics, like perhaps the Mosin scope or something, I want the KPA to have all the stuff a normal conventional force has like the MEC or China because of all the new other forces, just older stuff that's the same. As for the drab, maybe kits like crewman, pilot, and engineer can have them.

And for a DMZ map, perhaps something like a reverse Hills of Hamgyong with the US/ROK defending the high ground, with at least some ground level enough for NK tank assault and the NKoreans also get faster spawn time to counter the tech and US/RoK's high ground advantage. That would be an awesome map. Only problem I remember on Hamgyong was that US was pwned if they didn't act decisive enough, too many people held back out of fear. But that's more a player problem anyways.

i only think it would be realistic to have optics on sniper and marksman rifles. having optics like the other factions do such as mec and US, that would sorta kill the point of even having a nk faction. they are a 3rd world poor peoples army. i think they fall more in line with the milita than with standard factions. sorta like a milita with a huge numerical superiorty in tanks and troops, but really old crappy gear.

[Tannhauser]

their Rifleman optics would be replaced by an SKS kit or something.

I would really like to play NK for once, an oldschool conventional army VS the modern ones!

[charliegrs]

perhaps, place lots of spawn points and shorter respawn times for nk soldiers, to simulate human wave attacks?

also, the only problem i see with having a SKS kit with optics for nk is that everyone would choose it, it wouldnt look too realistic to have all the nk soldiers running around with SKSs and no AKs in sight.

[aperson444]

I think that we should give AKs to all the ones that don't need a request. SKS to like a scout or something. also, I'm sure that NK has some AK-74s in stock. Not just 47s.

[Tannhauser]

perhaps, place lots of spawn points and shorter respawn times for nk soldiers, to simulate human wave attacks?

also, the only problem i see with having a SKS kit with optics for nk is that everyone would choose it, it wouldnt look too realistic to have all the nk soldiers running around with SKSs and no AKs in sight.

I was talking about SKS no optics, sorry if you thought other wise!
There's no SKS optics model anyway, I was just implying you could replace the Rifleman Optic class with a Rifleman SKS (ironsight) class because apparently NK uses rifles as much as AKs..

[Hresvelgr]

The main issue I have with the SKS is that it just makes the KPA feel more like militia. They already have AK's w/o optics, T-62s, BRDMs, probably Ppsh's too, etc. Do we really need them to be a reskinned Militia?

[charliegrs]

The main issue I have with the SKS is that it just makes the KPA feel more like militia. They already have AK's w/o optics, T-62s, BRDMs, probably Ppsh's too, etc. Do we really need them to be a reskinned Militia?

well i think you have a point, but i think if you do some things to make the nk forces appear to be a massive force {lots of spawn point, lower spawn time, large amounts of tanks} it would differentiate them from the militia.

also, if you have maps based in korea then your talking US marines {and maybe south korean forces if they get made too} against nk. the marines have been on the demilitarized zone for 50 years, so they have a huge force of armor and air units. having abrams and cobras against t-62s and hinds would defintily have a much different feel from the militia maps.

which brings me to another point, the militia do not have jets or choppers. i was reading up on a north korean war scenarion last week, and one of the things it said was that in the event of a war in korea, the skys would be full of US and NK fighter jets dogfighting. it said that it would only take minutes for both sides to meet each other because of the close proximity of their air bases. and that this close range would negate many of the tactics that american pilots use, such as reliance on long range AA missiles, and that it could be end up being like the first korean war where fighters were dogfighting using only their guns {because thats all they had at the time} so a map like that would be pretty cool too.

[aperson444]

North Korea has a lot more than Militia. NK has more advanced weaponry than the Militia (They are directly supplied by china an Russia). NK will have helicopters and jets. They will definitely have more armor, faster spawn, and more spawn. From what I have read, NK does have some T-72s. Perhaps we could borrow MECs T-72? This would only apply for certain maps, especially the ones near the DMZ.

[Hresvelgr]

OK, but I'd still like them to be more reminiscent of the Russians when it comes to infantry, but I'm fine with giving them older vehicles. I'm also unsure as to how often the SKS is really used in their army. That said, there has got to be a Seoul/Pyongyang map. Seoul would be cool because it'd be the first really major city in PR, and Pyongyang because it's Pyongyang.