Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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Solid Knight
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Re: [Lesson] Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

Post by Solid Knight »

Hresvelgr wrote:If it's annoying then just don't pick up enemy weapons, mmkay? And take a second to look at someone on long distances to make sure instead of blasting at everything. Ain't that hard. I personally love the realism aspect of it.
There's nothing realistic about taking their vests and head gear along with the weapon. Really, you'd just take the ammo and gun (or rocket launcher) and not some of the clothing on their body.

It'd be cool if you only took their gun and ammo. I'm not sure if python could do that or not.
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Re: [Lesson] Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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Isnt it possible to make some script, something like: If the kit you have picked up is from enemy team/different faction then geometry is not changing? :confused:
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Re: [Lesson] Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

Post by Cassius »

Dr2B Rudd wrote:The team what allows the HAT to fall in to insurgent hands...is a bad team.

I had a SM who got the HAT on fallujah, he shall go nameless....


"SUPER_TIMO"


....and I told him he was not allowed to leave main unless he got another kit :D
That nuttin, I was leading a squad on Basra spawning on the firebase at the western village *presses tab* TWO HAT kits inna row. Upon complaining the whole team was like zomg. Their explanation, they like explosions >.< .
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SocketMan
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Re: [Lesson] Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

Post by SocketMan »

1.
Here is what I find annoying:
People shoot before they check who they're shooting at.

2.
All insurgents have "Pink turbans"- I am not asking for camo or anything a like
but having that on your head is a health risk.

If you're playing insurgent -pick up the US/GB kit just for that reason ^^^.
You'd get a helmet (doesn't matter if it's not real) instead of a "shoot here" pinky :p
Other reasons:it looks funky imo,you'd get at least 1 field dressing,a scoped weapon,
an ammo bag/medic kit/HAT/LAT/officer whatever it's all good.Combat enginear is
# 1( can't tell you why-think jihad :wink: :wink :) and some extra respect from the fellow insurgents.
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Post by Japub »

Solid Knight wrote:There's nothing realistic about taking their vests and head gear along with the weapon. Really, you'd just take the ammo and gun (or rocket launcher) and not some of the clothing on their body.

It'd be cool if you only took their gun and ammo. I'm not sure if python could do that or not.
Well there's not so many realistic reasons for taking the gun either (unless you have no ammo left and are in danger). The sights would be all screwed up for you cause they're set for every indiviual (aimpoints would be easier to fix though but an insurgent that never used one will need some time to get used to it).
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Re: [Lesson] Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

Post by RedAlertSF »

SocketMan wrote:1.
Here is what I find annoying:
People shoot before they check who they're shooting at.

2.
All insurgents have "Pink turbans"- I am not asking for camo or anything a like
but having that on your head is a health risk.

If you're playing insurgent -pick up the US/GB kit just for that reason ^^^.
You'd get a helmet (doesn't matter if it's not real) instead of a "shoot here" pinky :p
Other reasons:it looks funky imo,you'd get at least 1 field dressing,a scoped weapon,
an ammo bag/medic kit/HAT/LAT/officer whatever it's all good.Combat enginear is
# 1( can't tell you why-think jihad :wink: :wink :) and some extra respect from the fellow insurgents.

This is so true.

I'd like to have ability to pick hostile kits disabled because in real life you are never allowed to leave your rifle to the field. Even if it's out of ammo. Of course it's a different thing for insurgents and taliban.
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Re: [Lesson] Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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YouTube - Generation Kill - 1x06 - Some Great Bits (6/7).

One thing that I noticed in the vid is that they had more than two .50 cal hummers. They didn't rely on an APC for transport... We need our light vehicles back. :? ??:
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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trigger and muzzle awareness. ps make sure. u know what your shooting at. first. most gamers dont think that way anyway.
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DesmoLocke wrote:YouTube - Generation Kill - 1x06 - Some Great Bits (6/7).

One thing that I noticed in the vid is that they had more than two .50 cal hummers. They didn't rely on an APC for transport... We need our light vehicles back. :? ??:
They're a reconnaissance battalion. ;)
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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'paratrooper[BG wrote:;916944']stop talking about movies who take enemy helmet and who not now this is the true YouTube - Russian Soldier Wearing a US Uniform Stolen from Gori Base YouTube - Russian soldiers have stolen US humvees in Georgia YouTube - Russian Soldiers Steal Georgia Property in the Zone of Confl <--- this a reality
those mothers. if icatch somne stealing my stuf. they are eating 556 right up the, lol oh yeha i noticed u got my cadpat skin as ur avatar. nice.

hey ithappens. if u gotta blend in with the enemy. it helps


havng enemy weapons means its harder for them to tell whos shooting, let ur buddies know. let other squads know. that u guys are "sneaking round" lookin like haji so they don light u up. so when haji shows up. u ran run right on em while good ole classic lookin us troops shoot and take distraction.
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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'paratrooper[BG wrote:;916944']stop talking about movies who take enemy helmet and who not now this is the true YouTube - Russian Soldier Wearing a US Uniform Stolen from Gori Base YouTube - Russian soldiers have stolen US humvees in Georgia YouTube - Russian Soldiers Steal Georgia Property in the Zone of Confl <--- this a reality
Did you NOT read my post? Generation kill is based completely off a real story. A book that was written by a embeded reporter during the Iraq Invasion. But you're saying your video if of real life then fine. I'm just saying the story is true even though it is a TV series made for entertainment.
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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Wearing an enemy uniform in combat is considered a war crime under article 23 of the 1899 Hague convention;
Besides the prohibitions provided by special Conventions, it is especially prohibited:--
To employ poison or poisoned arms;

To kill or wound treacherously individuals belonging to the hostile nation or army;

To kill or wound an enemy who, having laid down arms, or having no longer means of defence, has surrendered at discretion;

To declare that no quarter will be given;

To employ arms, projectiles, or material of a nature to cause superfluous injury;

To make improper use of a flag of truce, the national flag, or military ensigns and the enemy's uniform, as well as the distinctive badges of the Geneva Convention;

To destroy or seize the enemy's property, unless such destruction or seizure be imperatively demanded by the necessities of war.
SRC: The Avalon Project - Laws of War : Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899

I imagine that includes helmets :D
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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Harrod200 wrote:Wearing an enemy uniform in combat is considered a war crime under article 23 of the 1899 Hague convention;


SRC: The Avalon Project - Laws of War : Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899

I imagine that includes helmets :D
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

Post by CodeRedFox »

Hey when I first learned about it I voiced up as well. but after being told why (which you all have been told the same) I just dealt with it.

So Get use to it people, its not going anywhere for a while. No fixes, no patches. If and when it get resolved you will all know about it.

But for the time allot of us like the idea. But that's besides to point as it would take allot of work to get it working right.
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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I pick up enemy kits when i am alone, or my squad got wiped out. Because it will confuse them with the sound of the rifle and the look of the helmet i would be wearing
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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Harrod200 wrote:Wearing an enemy uniform in combat is considered a war crime under article 23 of the 1899 Hague convention;


SRC: The Avalon Project - Laws of War : Laws and Customs of War on Land (Hague II); July 29, 1899

I imagine that includes helmets :D
No, the law deals with Insignia i.e. the USA Flag. If there was a flag or other nationally identifying mark on the helmet or patches, then that would be improper use of signs, but since there isn't, no violation.
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

Post by spartan117gw »

how bout this

everyone watch ur lanes
know what your shooting at
id the enemy as friend or foe.
and uwont have problems. if some uk marine is wearing haji gear in the game lol no biggy its only to ur advantage. just watch ur trigger fingers. and ul not have a problem .lol. we got mini maps. AND IWISH WE HAD THOSE IN REAL LIFElol. so yeha its too easy. if it aint u. check it out. if it realy aint u. light it up
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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I came close to shooting a friendly a few times but stopped at the last moment.For all we know this will teach us all to be more patient
and less trigger happy.Even if it is an enemy no need to rush things
if he does not see you.Love the new "observe" marker btw :razz:
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Re: Lesson: Why you shouldn't pick up enemy kits.

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Pro-tip: Don't take the enemy's RPG kit then run towards a friendly APC with it pointing at them.
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