[Faction Proposal] Korean People's Army Ground Forces

[Polka]

Some propaganda


or?

Still, this could be awesome.

[charliegrs]

OK, but I'd still like them to be more reminiscent of the Russians when it comes to infantry, but I'm fine with giving them older vehicles. I'm also unsure as to how often the SKS is really used in their army. That said, there has got to be a Seoul/Pyongyang map. Seoul would be cool because it'd be the first really major city in PR, and Pyongyang because it's Pyongyang.

I agree. I think we need more urban maps based somewhere besides the middle east. Pyongyang or seoul would not only be awesome, but pretty realistic imo.

[aperson444]

I have several ideas for maps. One of such is a battle on the coast of North Korea.. Of course there will be a battle on the DMZ, but his is different. It is mainly urban warfare, and takes place near a village called Ijin-dong.

It would be a mostly amphibious attack. Possibly USMC vs North Korea, or South Korea vs North Korea. The area itself is very nice. There are 2 nice bays where a carrier or a ship could stand. Across Anna Bay is a North Korean army base. This would mean that the area is more heavily guarded than if there as no base nearby. There is a missile base to the north near a lake called Pon-p'o. There are a few small farm villages.

The area here is slightly urban. It would be good for something like Kashan, but it's a little more urban. There are several villages dotting the area. Remember, very urban maps are taxing on the computer.

[Hresvelgr]

Considering the .85 updates should the KPA get optics on their AK-74s to be fair? I think they should be a step between Militia and truely conventional armies so I think so. Give 'em optics and camo, and old vehicles to balance it out. Besides, a PR MiG-21 would be cool.

[ReadMenace]

Considering the .85 updates should the KPA get optics on their AK-74s to be fair? I think they should be a step between Militia and truely conventional armies so I think so. Give 'em optics and camo, and old vehicles to balance it out. Besides, a PR MiG-21 would be cool.

Does the KPA widely field optics? PSO-1s? POSP? Or some Chinese optic? I don't think it would make sense for them to have 1P29s...

-REad

[Hresvelgr]

Awesome, any of those 3 would be good to mount on thier Type 88, the first two in particular I like the most. Any more info on those scopes? Also, Pyongyang would be more important to make than Seoul because I'm not sure you could male a Seoul map that wouldn't make the game as laggy as hell.

[Tannhauser]

Keep seoul for later, if JSDF makes modern skyscrapper statics in the future, maybe they'll share them and reskins in korean will be possible. Ain't too different anyway.

[ReadMenace]

Made in China SKS Type 56 "Norinco" with type 89 mount and copy Russian PU style mount with copy Russian 2.75X18 scope and 4X20 Red Star.

All three of those rifles were made for export to Western civilian markets.

He had many types and styles of rifles fabricated In China, Spain and other countries. From reproduction Civil War rifles to broomhandle Mausers to the Chinese SKS variations

Linky

So, back on the topic of what the KPA actually uses: Does anyone have evidence of their widespread use of optics with line forces?

-REad

[Hresvelgr]

To be fair we don't have much evidence of anything in their. We have only a handful of pictures of what may be their most common tank, we only recently found out about camo that is probably their standard BDU, and we still haven't seen pics of their latest tank. It's the most secretive nation on earth. So if according to the "PR Storyline" on the news page the Chechens and Taliban are getting weapons from an unknown source, who's to say the Chinese wouldn't arm North Korea even more if America and Britain attacked them?

[aperson444]

I'm pretty sure that China would supply the KPA anyways. Maybe Russia wouldn't as much, but China would surely supply the KPA.

[Nemesis6]

The speech would indeed be tricky, but initially you could just add "mnida" or "mnika" at the end of the Chinese voices. Worked in Team America, right?

Anyway, here's an alright picture of the Type 88:

http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_808653/2 ... type88.jpg

That was one of many weapons dug up from a North Korean spy boat whose crew were stupid enough to engage the Japanese Coast Guard when their vessel was about to be boarded.

[STORM-Mama]

The Chinese would not support the North Koreans. The current Chinese government is not the same one as the one under Mao - they do not care about spreading the words of communism anymore, but doing the things that are best for themselves and the country as a whole. Supporting an under-developed and low-tech army like the KPA in a war against the US-backed south korea would not really be good for the Chinese nation...

Saying that China would support the NKjust because "they did it during the Korean war" is like saying that Germany would invade Poland because they did it in WW2. Governments and countries change, China is not an exception.

[charliegrs]

The Chinese would not support the North Koreans. The current Chinese government is not the same one as the one under Mao - they do not care about spreading the words of communism anymore, but doing the things that are best for themselves and the country as a whole. Supporting an under-developed and low-tech army like the KPA in a war against the US-backed south korea would not really be good for the Chinese nation...

Saying that China would support the NKjust because "they did it during the Korean war" is like saying that Germany would invade Poland because they did it in WW2. Governments and countries change, China is not an exception.

would have to agree with him here. theres a better chance of china invading nk these days.

[Tannhauser]

Seeing as there is a very slight sense of *geopolitical situation* depicted in PR with US/GB/NATO invading China that proves they'd be at war against the People's Republic of China, there is a high possibility that China will find any help from North Korea helpful at some point (Seeing how NATO has advanced into mainland china in PR, means any help is welcome even tho PRC can handle it). In that situation i'd agree that it is likely to see North Korea fighting alongside China in a total war against NATO invaders.
However, in the case of seperate wars where they would fight individually at different timelines, it is unlikely to see china fighting alongside North Korea. (If the NK/NATO war is before the PRC/NATO war). In that case, I approve of what STORM-mama is saying. But if the PRC/NATO war happens before that, then PRC+NK vs NATO wouldn't be so farfetched.

Right now it's sure hard to imagine China doing anything with North Korea, but if China is fighting an invader during a total war, things can change very quickly.

[aperson444]

A radical communist uprising in China is not a very unrealistic thught. If this happened, then NK and China would be allies. And remember, China will sell just about anything for money .

[Sights]

A radical communist uprising in China is not a very unrealistic thught. If this happened, then NK and China would be allies. And remember, China will sell just about anything for money .

Radical communist as opposed to... what? I know China doesn't have the same commitment to communist ideals as, say, back in Mao's day, but even so, China is hardly a liberal-democracy.

[Hresvelgr]

Back to the original point, if Chechens get scopes from "unknown sources", why can't an actual country get scopes from a mutual ally? The whole reason China helped NK during the Korean War was because they were worried about having Americans on their doorsteps. The reason NK and China are not friends now is because China prefers America, but if the two went to war several million fanatical soldiers from Korea could help China alot, especially if given some more modern equipment...

And this is simply assuming they don't have scopes now, because there is no way we'd know considering they're so secretive. Hence the camo BDUs we only recently found out about.