Lack of BMP-3's.

[sakils2]

I really enjoy this release(especially INS mode and the deviation: PEW PEW).


Almost everything is perfect for me. The downside, though, is the lack of the BMP-3's on maps such as Muttrah, Jabal.(Not a big, though, I rarely play any other mode besides INS)

For example Jabal: USMC get 4 LAV's at the start, MEC get a crappy BDRM-2, although, 4 BTR-60 spawns after 10 minutes. BUT, LAV's have a lot more firepower. Of course MEC's have Rifleman AT kits and H-AT,but... USMC have those, too.

I have only tested Jabal at the moment, but I think the situation is quite the same on Muttrah.

I would to know your opinion on this subject. Should MEC's get a BMP-3, how would the BMP-3 unfluent gameplay etc.

P.S. Please no suggestions, this is not the place for them



Thank you DEV's, testers and all the people who helped to improve PR- the best mod out there!

[ghostt888]

Well a BMP-3M's Armour is light enough to not be able to withstand the LAV-25 25mm cannon and has a smaller troop capacity if i am not mistaken, but makes up for it with its increase in fire power and stability as well as off road performance. So if MEC got one on top of the BTR-60 and BRDM-2 with their 14.5mm HMG it would be fair in my opinion.

[Saarna]

Not to take a stance on wether to implement more BMP's or not, the BTR-60 is actually far from lacking in firepower. We've tested it pretty extensively, and in a straight up firefight, the BTR knocks out the LAV with ease. While the latter might do more damage initially, its cannon overheats quickly and stays inoperable long enough for the slowest BTR gunner to pound it out with the 14,5mm.

[jbgeezer]

Give back the BTR90

[crazy11]

The BMP-3 would be overkill against the LAV.

[Zerapup]

BMP-3 will oneshot LAV with its main cannon.

[Scot]

Way I see it:

BMP 3 = Bradley

BTR ~ LAV

BDRM ~ Stryker

It seems fair enough IMO.

(~ stands for approximately equal to)

[Outlawz7]

BTR ~ LAV

Yes, but which BTR? 60 or 90?

[gclark03]

60, of course.

[DankE_SPB]

played jabal twice as MEC, BTR-60 sucks against LAV, you need nearly 100-150 hits from KPVT to frontal armor of LAV to kill it if it was fully repaired, another example nearly 40 hits to back and its still alive
imo, US should have less LAV's

[Surround]

But you need 3 times bigger force when attacking. So mec has usually a bigger chance to win

[ReaperMAC]

Yes, but which BTR? 60 or 90?

And the award for the question with most obvious answer goes too.....


Yes, it is the BTR-60, and like Crazy said, it is waayy overkill against the LAVs, not to mention the BMP-3 takes like 3 tank rounds to kill on some occasions!

[StuTika]

Noooo...surely not? In my experience the BTR-90 beats the **** out of the LAV-25. Cannon fires much faster and I think the BTR-90 is tougher too. The BTR-60 is more like equal, and would pwn a Stryker.

And a question...is the Stryker bullet-proof against .50 rounds? I thought the BDRM-2 was - I quickly discovered otherwise!

Stu.

[STORM-Mama]

Yes, the Stryker is bulletproof. After all, it's an APC (the 'A' standing for 'armoured') and comparable to the BTR-60. The BRDM-2 has the same kind of protection as the Humvee and should not be used for transporting infantry.

As Johnny said, it's a scout vehicle and has no NATO/US equivalent in PR.

And I agree that the USMC should use less LAVs. Give them that ugly amphibious thingy you often see in combat videos from Iraq (AAV - something) on maps like Muttrah and Jabal, with a very limited amout of LAVs as IFV-support.

[ghostt888]

Noooo...surely not? In my experience the BTR-90 beats the **** out of the LAV-25. Cannon fires much faster and I think the BTR-90 is tougher too. The BTR-60 is more like equal, and would pwn a Stryker.

And a question...is the Stryker bullet-proof against .50 rounds? I thought the BDRM-2 was - I quickly discovered otherwise!

Stu.

Yes it should have 100% protection up to 12.7x50mm rounds, but the BRDM-2 has a KPV that fire 14.5x115mm rounds so that has the potential to pierce a Strykers armor.

[Expendable Grunt]

Personally, I think we should get something other than the AP rounds for the KPV users. Other rounds DO exist...

M.