American sniper rifles?

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Koroush47
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American sniper rifles?

Post by Koroush47 »

The americans have two snipers...

a M40a3..

and another one with single zoom.


I was wondering why i could kill much more enemies with with M40a3, but when i got the second sniper... i couldn't even get a single kill.

Why are they so different? What was the M40a3 made to do, and what was the other one made to do?
Paine
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Post by Paine »

I believe the marines have the M40A3, and the army have the M24 (which doesn't make sense because IRL it is just the opposite). At any rate, all the rifles have different limiting factors, they all shoot differently; the only way to get to know each one is practice and experience.

As a rule though the Sniper Kits are for spotting enemy movement to your team, calling in CAS with the GLTD, and lastly engaging high priority targets such as enemy specialty kits and officers.
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Post by charliegrs »

maybe hes talking about the marksman, and the sniper rifle?
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Post by Bob_Marley »

Paine wrote:I believe the marines have the M40A3, and the army have the M24 (which doesn't make sense because IRL it is just the opposite).
No, it isn't.
The M24 Sniper's Weapon System (SWS) represents a return to bolt action sniper rifles by the US Army.
M24 SWS

In 1996 the USMC started on the design for the replacement of the M40A1, the result was the M40A3.
M40A3

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Post by Tahanatos »

charliegrs wrote:maybe hes talking about the marksman, and the sniper rifle?
No there are 2 different Sniperrifles in the game.
1.A few factions got single zoom Sniperrifles. Like MEC and US Army.

2.Other factions like China GB and USMC got Sniperrifles with 2 Zoomstages.

I dont know and dont understand why not everybody can get a proper Sniperrifle. Espacially the US Army Sniper seems out of place.

Another question would be, why the Antimaterial Rifles were taken out of the game. The Russian, MEC and the Chinese could get the Gepard and the US could get the Barret. The GB could get the 50.cal ArcticWarfare.

I think the kind of Sniperrifles from 1. should be removed and replaced with the ones from 2.
I also think that the second Sniperkit should be replaced by a Antimaterial Rifle Kit, who can choose between different types of Ammo.
In addition to that the Lasertargeter should be given to the Spotter, who should also get 2 or 3 epipens and a handfull of fielddressings.

By the way: WHERE IS THE GHILLIE SUIT
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Koroush47
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Post by Koroush47 »

Tahanatos wrote:No there are 2 different Sniperrifles in the game.
1.A few factions got single zoom Sniperrifles. Like MEC and US Army.

2.Other factions like China GB and USMC got Sniperrifles with 2 Zoomstages.

I dont know and dont understand why not everybody can get a proper Sniperrifle. Espacially the US Army Sniper seems out of place.

Another question would be, why the Antimaterial Rifles were taken out of the game. The Russian, MEC and the Chinese could get the Gepard and the US could get the Barret. The GB could get the 50.cal ArcticWarfare.

I think the kind of Sniperrifles from 1. should be removed and replaced with the ones from 2.
I also think that the second Sniperkit should be replaced by a Antimaterial Rifle Kit, who can choose between different types of Ammo.
In addition to that the Lasertargeter should be given to the Spotter, who should also get 2 or 3 epipens and a handfull of fielddressings.

By the way: WHERE IS THE GHILLIE SUIT

I have no idea! lol


I was wondering.. Why does the M24 suck so badly? I can't even get ONE kill. I'm not a noob at sniping, I'm actually a decent sniper with any gun but the M24.

It's just frustrating why i cannot kill with it.

Is it because it's broken or something? Am i doing something wrong?
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Post by crazy11 »

No its just you its not bugged, just practice with the m24 more and you will start killing people.
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Post by charliegrs »

Tahanatos wrote:No there are 2 different Sniperrifles in the game.
1.A few factions got single zoom Sniperrifles. Like MEC and US Army.

2.Other factions like China GB and USMC got Sniperrifles with 2 Zoomstages.

I dont know and dont understand why not everybody can get a proper Sniperrifle. Espacially the US Army Sniper seems out of place.

Another question would be, why the Antimaterial Rifles were taken out of the game. The Russian, MEC and the Chinese could get the Gepard and the US could get the Barret. The GB could get the 50.cal ArcticWarfare.

I think the kind of Sniperrifles from 1. should be removed and replaced with the ones from 2.
I also think that the second Sniperkit should be replaced by a Antimaterial Rifle Kit, who can choose between different types of Ammo.
In addition to that the Lasertargeter should be given to the Spotter, who should also get 2 or 3 epipens and a handfull of fielddressings.

By the way: WHERE IS THE GHILLIE SUIT
antimaterial sniper rifles used to be in PR in the form of hidden pick up kits on al basrah. unfortuneatly it ended up just being a huge rush to grab the gun and go 1337 lonewolf. trust me its a good thing they took it out, the last thing pr needs is another excuse for someone to join a squad just so they can grab a sniper rifle.
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Post by steve_06-07 »

.50 Cal was in Bi-Ming up until .8. I am wondering that also, I can get kills with the M40A3 in 1 shot, but with the M24 I either have to hit in the very upper torso or the head to get the kills.
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Post by CSM.Matt »

Paine wrote:I believe the marines have the M40A3, and the army have the M24 (which doesn't make sense because IRL it is just the opposite).
No the M40A3 is a heavily modified version of the M24 made for the US Marines, it is correct how it is.
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Post by bloodthirsty_viking »

Tahanatos wrote:
By the way: WHERE IS THE GHILLIE SUIT
fro what i have read, its bugged and wont render 5+ meters away
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Post by @bsurd »

how the others said, its only training. The M24 works good. After a time of training, its a one shot one kill rifle (and then the medic comes... i want headshots back in!)
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Post by Fluffywuffy »

CSM.Matt wrote:No the M40A3 is a heavily modified version of the M24 made for the US Marines, it is correct how it is.
They are definitely different guns.
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Post by Koroush47 »

Ghost1800 wrote:I actually got to use both the M21 and M24 in a round on Op. Archer just now. I have absolutely no complaints with their performance.
The m24, i believe is only useful for observation on maps like kashan desert.

I waited for 10 seconds on this squadleaders body and shot, i don't even think he realized somebody was shooting at him.
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Koroush47 wrote:The m24, i believe is only useful for observation on maps like kashan desert.

I waited for 10 seconds on this squadleaders body and shot, i don't even think he realized somebody was shooting at him.
It is possibel to kill people with both rifles and they follow same or similar physics. Difference is the scope. You realice that there is bulletdrop? Did you take it into account?
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Post by IAJTHOMAS »

Feuerwaffen wrote:They are definitely different guns.
Think i remember reading this argument somewhere before and the conclusion was they either were or weren't both based on the remington 700.

Isn't that helpful :mrgreen:

Edit: A bit of googling found this:

RemingtonMilitary.com
The M24 is based on the legendary Model 700
M40A1 Sniper Rifle
The M40A3 is still based on the Remington 700 action, though many of its components are after market (non-Remington), and custom built.
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Post by Scot »

Well I dunno about any of you guys, I have no problem dropping people with the m24 or M40...
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Post by nedlands1 »

Koroush47 wrote:The m24, i believe is only useful for observation on maps like kashan desert.

I waited for 10 seconds on this squadleaders body and shot, i don't even think he realized somebody was shooting at him.
It could be just some poor hit registration.

AFAIK, a shot to the torso isn't 1 hit kill in the case of opponents wearing good body armour* unless you are using the British L115A1. However if the shot gets them in the upper thigh or in the torso when they are wearing the poor amour** then it should be a 1 hit kill. At long range, a centre of mass shot could result in a hit on the upper thighs and hence result in a 1 hit kill.

*In the case of the PLA, the MEC, the US Army, the USMC and the British

**In the case of Insurgents, the Taliban and the Chechen Rebels
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Post by HughJass »

imo american sniper rifles in game are epic, i dont really know about anyotheres but i dont like the mec one.
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