Is it just me or.. Insurgency is not fun.

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Koroush47
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Is it just me or.. Insurgency is not fun.

Post by Koroush47 »

It seems to be a bit boring...

I have much more fun on the control point maps.. The insurgency gamemode needs something to make it a little bit more fun. Pretty much all it is.. is a bunch of US armymen driving/walking around looking for some crate while getting blow to bits by IEDs and hidden insurgents that run around randomly most of the time.

Anybody else think the same way?
Tirak
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Re: Is it just me or.. Insurgency is not fun.

Post by Tirak »

Koroush47 wrote:It seems to be a bit boring...

I have much more fun on the control point maps.. The insurgency gamemode needs something to make it a little bit more fun. Pretty much all it is.. is a bunch of US armymen driving/walking around looking for some crate while getting blow to bits by IEDs and hidden insurgents that run around randomly most of the time.

Anybody else think the same way?
Insurgency is an objective based game. Combat varies wildly depending on where caches spawn. It's not for everyone and it requires better tactics and coordination than standard AAS. That said, I love insurgency. It's not just you, but there is a significant portion of the community that enjoys insurgency.
lucky14
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Post by lucky14 »

Tirak says it. Insurgency is way more fun for me than AAS. I love ambushing the infidels or searching for caches. The newest maps (including those from .8, and Operation Archer) really demonstrate the mode at it's best right now. But is really depends on your perference of game-play type.
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Post by achillez »

Insurgency is a blast - whenever I get the chance I always play insurgent :)
Incomplete Spork
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Post by Incomplete Spork »

I would like more Insurgency maps to implement the Korengal style thing. I think having AAS rewarding and mixed with Insurgency is godly.
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Post by Vege »

Making all maps Taliban would IMHO be a bad move. Taliban is all ready owning pretty much and as some INS maps are allready usually won by INS so it would be even more unbalanced.

INS maps need a different mindset that requires you to be silent and good at CQB and urge to get into CQB.
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INS teams can seem to be quite unorganized but a good way to let off some steam.
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Post by cyberzomby »

I didnt like insurgency as well but recently I do! even as a squadleader it really plays like the regular game mode to me. You can just as easily get your insurgenct squad together and attack the army dudes.

I always liked it playing as the army. Just felt really realistic. Setting up your squad and searching the caches. Really cool.
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Post by Zi8 »

The only drawback with the insurgents atm is the ridiculous spawn times, e.g I get hit, bleed to death a bit later and have to wait 40-50seconds until respawn. I think it should be decreased some. Anyway insurgents are cool
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Post by NyteMyre »

I don't dislike the insurgency mode, I just think that the insurgents are not mobile enough.
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Incomplete Spork
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Post by Incomplete Spork »

Vege wrote:Making all maps Taliban would IMHO be a bad move. Taliban is all ready owning pretty much and as some INS maps are allready usually won by INS so it would be even more unbalanced.
I didn't say make all insurgency maps Taliban. I said add in AAS rewarding systems to INS maps
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Post by Arnoldio »

Insurgency requies more intuition...AAS is just straight forward (Rush or die! for normal pubbers mostly)
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Post by Paycheck »

I tell ya, there is nothing better than raming a bomb car into the side of a humvee.
oxYris
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Post by oxYris »

Insugency is a great game mode. I even prefer it over AAS. You're a lot more free to do what you want with your squad than absolutely having to take that one control point. Also I feel that Ins. is more "squad based", so individual squads can operate alone all over the map trying to get to different caches. AAS is more like army A vs. army B, most of the squads hang out at the same place and when the other squads suck you can't really do anything about it. In Ins. a single squad can do quiet a bit of damage.
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Post by Cassius »

Insurgency is like bitter chocclate, nobody likes it at first, but then you cant make up your mind if you like milk or bitter better.
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Re: Is it just me or.. Insurgency is not fun.

Post by Saobh »

The problem with Insurgency right now is the loss of the multiple spawn points they had before.
The fact that SLs can build ones hasn't replaced it as it seems most people playing thme have no clue they can (I stopped counting the number of times I've asked my SL to make one only to get the answer "You can't build as insurgent you newb" :roll: )

And it also seems people are not understanding that the spawn they get on the new caches only last a certain time (rather then being taken out by the other side) thus they don't even bother to build anything around it as it already "we already have a spawn dwude !"

So in the end you end up with only a few main spawns (like in Albasrah ---> everyone is running from Mosque) resulting in very poor defense around the ones which are more then a 2 min walk from them.

So all in all the quality of the maps and game play has increased, but needs the player base to be a bit more "informed".
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Post by gazzthompson »

the maps need (if possible) the hideout distance to be specific to size, fallujah needs like 150m hideout distance rather than 400 for example. same as basrah and korengal.
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Post by Tim270 »

I think it is a lot more fun as you have a lot more ways to implement your defence of the caches. The mode can become a little dry at times because of the nature of having to wait for the other team to come to you are try to root you out, however I enjoy this mode the most by far.
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Post by charliegrs »

insurgency to me is what makes PR so special and unique. Ive been hooked on it ever since i started playing .5 basrah. however it requires 2 things for it to be fun and although it seems simple, many times no one follows these 2 simple rules:
1. coalition has to look for the caches. most of the time they are marked on the map for you and if not then you need to gather some intel. and stop sniping the insurgents, you cant kill them all!
2. insurgents need to defend the caches. they are marked on the map! just go there, and defend! its not rocket science!
amazingly enough these 2 simple rules are not so simple to a large segment of players. but other than that, insurgency is the best thing to happen to this mod.
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nicoX
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Post by nicoX »

Zi8 wrote:The only drawback with the insurgents atm is the ridiculous spawn times, e.g I get hit, bleed to death a bit later and have to wait 40-50seconds until respawn. I think it should be decreased some. Anyway insurgents are cool
Agreed, as insurgents don't have body armour, or any organised medic, they will find themselves bleeding allot.
Now expecting a sure death, they must wait to that and add the 50 sec respawn time.
It could work if we had 120+ players, but on 64 players it just takes away much of the players.
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Post by McBumLuv »

gazzthompson wrote:the maps need (if possible) the hideout distance to be specific to size, fallujah needs like 150m hideout distance rather than 400 for example. same as basrah and korengal.
Size is only 300 meters now, though I agree, map-related distance restrictions would face.
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