MP5 madness...

[hiberNative]

op's story has never happened to me. and i usually have backup if i'm anti-tank.
stop lonewolfing with the at4 ;P

[Teufel Eldritch]

Just like a knifer running towards a whole squad. Unrealistic? Hell yes. Does it happen? Yes, all the time. Just have to accept that those type of things will happen even in a 'realism' game. Like someone said earlier.... players are hardcoded. Really nothing the DevTeam can do about player behavior. Shrug your shoulders & move on.

[nick20404]

Because while you're doing that, the lives of 4 crewmen and a few billion $ worth piece of equpment is at heavy risk.
I can already see insurgents hurling at M1A2 TUSKs so that the smartass crewmen gets out, gets killed, the tank is stranded, and then gets blown up by simultaneous RPG fire, RKGs and IEDs.

It's really tricky to mix tanks with infantry. Let IFVs and APCs do that job, they carry mechanized infantry for a reason, to do exactly that : Get out, and kill the guys threathening armor from closer ranges.

And op wasn't with a huge group of insurgents with rpgs and ieds, he tried to walk up on an apc by him self and he got killed by the driver. nothing unrealistic about that. What do you think they would do if someone snuck up on them in real life and was placing explosives on him do you think they would just sit in the tank and wait to get blown up, no they would probably open up the hatch and blast the guy with there small arms unfortunately in bf2 we can't actually do that all you can do is exit the vehicle completely. besides if they are dumb enough to get out of there apc/tank just to kill one guy at risk of getting killed than let them. I would not do it unless it was necessary and taking out the mp5/m4 etc would just be dumb and pointless.


Btw I have never been killed by a crewmen hopping out of his tank, if you couldn't shoot him in the 2 seconds you had before he could fire his gun than that's your problem.

[nick20404]

Just like a knifer running towards a whole squad. Unrealistic? Hell yes. Does it happen? Yes, all the time. Just have to accept that those type of things will happen even in a 'realism' game. Like someone said earlier.... players are hardcoded. Really nothing the DevTeam can do about player behavior. Shrug your shoulders & move on.

I hate when people say its unrealistic, because really in battle anything can happen. How do you know no one has ever charged at the enemy with there bayonets or knives? The more rules and things you guys push onto the game makes it even more unrealistic.

[sakils2]

And op wasn't with a huge group of insurgents with rpgs and ieds, he tried to walk up on an apc by him self and he got killed by the driver.

I was with my squad, and I suggets you TO READ WHAT I POSTED!

I would not do it unless it was necessary and taking out the mp5/m4 etc would just be dumb and pointless.

Did I say that? NO.

Btw I have never been killed by a crewmen hopping out of his tank, if you couldn't shoot him in the 2 seconds you had before he could fire his gun than that's your problem.

Did you even read what I said earlier? I was hiding behind a tree, because APC was shooting at me! My squad hid in a bunker. The BTR-60 cannon couldn't get me thats why a driver got out, but I shoot him. The BTR-60 kept shooting, gunner got out I hoped out of the cover, he prone dived and shoot me, I said to my squad that the gunner is out, but it was too late. He jumped into his APC and drove back to main.

Get some US Army crewman to be the APC drivers in game then....

I guess you think think that jumping out of a properly functioning APC to kill a single infantry guys is a valid tactic in real life, just because US army crewmans stay in their APC's...

[Axel]

I secound the driver warmup idea someone mentioned.

[Alex6714]

I guess you think think that jumping out of a properly functioning APC to kill a single infantry guys is a valid tactic in real life, just because US army crewmans stay in their APC's...

No, but for every limitation there is a way to exploit it, in what is a video game played by people in the safety of their own homes. People will only behave realistically id they are in a realistic environment and they want to, not limited do what I say environment, then people will just look for exploits.

[Kinote]

I don't believe that removing personal weapons which are realistically brought into the field by vehicle crewmen, or the exit vehicle key, simply to prevent you from getting killed is a reasonable course of action.

There is one thing I don't quite understand about your argument. You believe that crewmen exiting their vehicle to hunt infantry isn't realistic, which you indeed have a point with saying. But your solution is to take away weapons which are realistically carried? What happens when the rest of the crowd starts complaining about how it's unrealistic to have unarmed crewmen?

I'm thinking you need to start planning better ambushes, or hiding better.

[Aquiller]

sakils, I'll quote your own avatar:



Why so serious?

[Outlawz7]

You don't seem do understand that jumping out of a properly functioning APC is UNREALISTIC!

And exiting your personal car which is also properly functioning is too?
Awesome, when I get my driver's license I'm going to stay in my car for the rest of my life and claim it's impossible to leave it.

[nick20404]

Making large game play changes because of what some random noob does once doesn't make much since.

If he is gonna waste his apc let him don't make a huge deal out of it and say the game needs to be edited to prevent it. Anything done in the game is realistic because only the game is fake and we are real so we are making the game realistic! get it?! by the guy getting out of his apc and getting killed that is the ultimate realism and I encourage everyone to do this.

[ReaperMAC]

Had incidents where dudes tried to hop out of the APC and kill me. Always ended up in them loosing both APC and said crewmen

[SgtFailure]

well maybe the crewman is just feeling " if i cant get u with my apc, i will settle it my way " and hops out to either knife you or in your case spray u with the MP5, this might give a reason why he chose to jump out because he is just pissed that he cant get you with his big fat apc.

[TheLean]

When you enter a vehicle you cant use the gun for 30 seconds. Why not make small arms uselless for 3-5 seconds after exiting vehicles to represent the crewman crawling out of the hatch being unable to use his weapon?

(This might have already been suggested as I dont have time to look through the entire thread)

[Expendable Grunt]

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Amirite?

M.

[gazzthompson]

^^^ you put a filefront pdf in youtube tags ??

[Teufel Eldritch]

I hate when people say its unrealistic, because really in battle anything can happen. How do you know no one has ever charged at the enemy with there bayonets or knives? The more rules and things you guys push onto the game makes it even more unrealistic.

I didn't mention anything about changing rules. And -it is- quite unrealistic for one lone knifer to charge a squad of ppl. In real life the only time one lone person would charge a group of ppl armed with firearms with only a knife is if they were suicidal, mentally disturbed, intoxicated or just plain stupid. And again...I did not mention anything about changing the rules. I in fact suggested to the OP that he just deal with the situation by shrugging it off.

[Expendable Grunt]

^^^ you put a filefront pdf in youtube tags ??

Oh GOD DAMN IT

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UkJ7pAnjTc8

NOW...amirite?

M.

[Threedroogs]

people who jump out of vehicles like that and engage with small arms are fools. they get killed 99% of the time. it's a terrible tactic.

everytime i have seen this happen the enemy vehicle gets stranded/destroyed or flees with one crewmember inside. i am shocked whenever i see this happen, to be honest.

complaining about this is sort of like complaining about bunny hoppers. if your enemy is doing something that puts him at a HUGE disadvantage, you should win the fight.

[Bob_Marley]

Oh GOD DAMN IT
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NOW...amirite?

M.

Yes!

Malitia T-62s should have poison gas!

Add RPGs and flamethrowers for crewmen!