Remove the kill counter?

[McBumLuv]

Read the thread, Kills don't appear for 30-60 seconds, so sitting around for that long to check your score would only hurt you not help you.

No, but deaths show up instantly, which is known about. though, in your defense, the thread seems to be more specifically about not showing kills, though I'd expect it to chuck the enemy deaths out first. It would be foolish not to.

[nick20404]

No, but deaths show up instantly, which is known about. though, in your defense, the thread seems to be more specifically about not showing kills, though I'd expect it to chuck the enemy deaths out first. It would be foolish not to.

You can see people get grayed out but deaths don't show up until they actually give up or die. And unless you are looking at the score board the whole time your firing to see if any names get grayed out than you have a problem. Other than that you could only guess if any of the grayed out names were because of you or the other 31 people on your team who are also playing.

But I do agree that the other teams names should always be grayed out even if there alive to discourage that, and maybe something along the lines of kills not showing up until you die.

Or maybe a system of when you die(not wounded) but blacked out screen you can check your score while you wait.

[McBumLuv]

You can see people get grayed out but deaths don't show up until they actually give up or die. And unless you are looking at the score board the whole time your firing to see if any names get grayed out than you have a problem. Other than that you could only guess if any of the grayed out names were because of you or the other 31 people on your team who are also playing.

But I do agree that the other teams names should always be grayed out even if there alive to discourage that, and maybe something along the lines of kills not showing up until you die.

Or maybe a system of when you die(not wounded) but blacked out screen you can check your score while you wait.

That last suggestion's not too bad, actually. I don't find the scoreboard to have been too big of a problem (unless I'm in a squad with Eddi, in which case he raves on about it ). Though getting rid of the enemy grey/red state is a necessity, imo, because it's almost always exploited (no matter whether you like it or not, you'll just find yourself doing it to confirm kills orten).

[General_J0k3r]

No. The game is about tickets <=> kills. one has to be able to monitor what squad is loosing tickets where in order to be successful.

[Wicca]

I dont play this game to kill as many as possible. I mean sure warfare is about killing eachother to the upmost intent, but im not saying that removing the kill counter will stop the killing.

Its just a way to make the average player think more about other things than their KDR.

PR is all about teamwork and cooperation, team spirit, etc. In my oppinion having an individual KDR makes the player miss the point of the game.

I belive there are alot of players who play the game, only to have a good KDR, which i belive is wrong, they shouldnt play this game just so they have a good KDR, they should play it for the teamwork, for the cooperation and such.

Whenever i see a lonewolfer, i cant stop to wonder, why is that man a lonewolfer, is it because noone likes him, he thinks he is awesome and leet, or is it so that he can ambush alone an enemy squad. There is no teamwork in that, thats not PR, thats..... I have no idea what that is, COD?

My point here is not to say that killing ppl makes the enemy team suffer, OF COURSE they suffer, im not a complete retard, but i just dont like seeing people playing this game for the wrong reasons.

Imagine you eat icecream, and the only reason you are eating it is so that you have eaten more than the guy next to you, what is the point of eating icecream then, if you cant enjoy it?

So removing the Kill counter, will in my oppinion make it easier for new players and old, to play this game for the right reasons.

Sorry for any misunderstandings

Wicca out.

[Guacy_Doidão]

Shown only in the end of the round.
or people may beguin to coting how many they kill!.
lol

[amazing_retard]

Have the devs come to a decision on this issue? Is the kill counter going to be removed?

[Bringerof_D]

squad based K/D ratio sounds like a good idea. it would instead of having 1 or 2 guys stray off have the whole squad maneuver in and take out the enemy. everyone gets the score, so it wouldnt really matter who got the kill so people would be more willing to go "hey there's a guy over there who's not lookin at us, one of you flank the left and i'll get him from the right."

in concept it should work, however in practice this may prove to be futile..however it would be a cool change from the standard FPS individual K/D ratio

[OkitaMakoto]

I dont even consider it to be a teamplay improving idea as much as I just consider it removing a small and, what I consider, unneeded gamey aspect of PR

Although I understand people want this left in as to them its "just a game"
Dont get me wrong, I agree its just a game, but its a realism game with more emphasis on other important things than score

Show scores after is fine by me... or not at all... though that doesnt leave much room to learn how to play "better"

[Dev1200]

I think having the kill counter makes people just have another reason to lone-wolf to get the 1337 killz, or in smaller games, see if you killed someone (Greyed out name)

[Alex6714]

I dont even consider it to be a teamplay improving idea as much as I just consider it removing a small and, what I consider, unneeded gamey aspect of PR

Although I understand people want this left in as to them its "just a game"
Dont get me wrong, I agree its just a game, but its a realism game with more emphasis on other important things than score

Show scores after is fine by me... or not at all... though that doesnt leave much room to learn how to play "better"

I agree with this, imo they should be kept, if only after the battle but lone wolfing will remain in PR until every kit is like the pilot kit and rifles are removed from everyone.

[sentinel]

No individual scores, just statistics about the round so you could compare the teams when the round ends. How many FBs were built destroyed, K/D rations. Also how many and what assets were lost sice they play a huge role in the outcome.

[Gracler]

I don't need the kill counter personaly but i think its useful for spotting cheaters or they will have a field day. On the other hand why would they care to get a high score by cheating if it is'nt gonna show?
Ofcourse admins would proberly still be able to see who did what i suppose and ban them but admins don't wanna check everything by themselves they rather act on reports (that they won't get since everyone is stealthy)

I like the idea of adding vehicle / FB ect stats to the end score so you know why your team lost.... Did we waste alot of equipment or where the enemy better shooters?

[ReaperMAC]

No individual scores, just statistics about the round so you could compare the teams when the round ends. How many FBs were built destroyed, K/D rations. Also how many and what assets were lost sice they play a huge role in the outcome.

I like that idea, only display the amount of kills that the team has, hell have that during the round at the bottom like it is right now.

[Polka]

Chop off that e-pen0r!

But keep the balls.

[Elektro]

Originally Posted by sentinel
No individual scores, just statistics about the round so you could compare the teams when the round ends. How many FBs were built destroyed, K/D rations. Also how many and what assets were lost sice they play a huge role in the outcome.


Nice idea you should show that at the end of the round

[llPANCHOll]

Only the commander should be able to see KDR's during the game. Individuals should have to confirm their kills the old fashoned way... by counting the bodies

[Wicca]

I like the idea of Squad KDR, that everyone pitches in.

I mean you always have that lonely medic, not shooting anything, and he needs a small token of appreciation for treating our bloddy wounds.

So, if i was to vote, it would have to be Squad score, so to improve gameplay.

[Rapid12]

Instead, could we not have shots per kill, accuracy table and a headshot tally?

[McBumLuv]

No headshot tallies, don't get fuzzhead in here again...