Rally points in the water

[kumade]

I saw with my own eyes that allied squad deployed rally point in the water under the bridge in Asad Khal. Not on the ground under the bridge, but under water. So such point cannot be destroyed by inc. grenade (i think so, but i didnt tried to do this, because this points belongs to my team). I think, this is cheating and must be fixed.

[Psyko]

hello, and welcome to the forums.
some rallys if in the water can be destroyed by knife, but you got to try a few times. either that or the rally got over-run by a group of opponants.

[Tartantyco]

-Rally points can be destroyed by simply using your knife. If it is located in an area in which it is hard, or impossible, to knife them you can destroy them using any other weapon as well(A few shots from a rifle will destroy them). If it's out of sight and out of reach you only need three people within 50m of it and it will be destroyed within 10 seconds.

[kumade]

Hello, guys.
I know all that things about how to destroy RP.
With knife You can't do that because in the water You cant use weapons. As for other ways You propose - yes, this is possible. But, as we all fighting for more realism (I guess so ) in this game - possibility of deploying RP under the water is not acceptable. Let's imagine how this can be in real life:
commander says to recruit : "Hello, son. You assigned to alfa squad. So go to the bridge and wait under water until further orders"

[Tartantyco]

But, as we all fighting for more realism (I guess so ) in this game - possibility of deploying RP under the water is not acceptable. Let's imagine how this can be in real life:
commander says to recruit : "Hello, son. You assigned to alfa squad. So go to the bridge and wait under water until further orders"

-First, you said that it was cheating and not "unrealistic", second; rally points themselves are not realistic so your complaint is a little "unrealistic", and third; why does spawning in the water under the bridge strike you as more unrealistic than spawning anywhere else?

[AfterDune]

second; rally points themselves are not realistic

I believe rallying points are very realistic? As far as I know, soldiers sometimes leave behind their big rucksacks, then move out to their objective and after that, return to the rallying point and pick up their stuff. I do think it's different depending on the situation and area of operation.

[UntenablePosition]

It is not considered an exploit to put a RP under the water ?
I always thought it was the same as when you could drop a RP inside a building.
The maxim " Because it's possible doesn't mean you should do it" comes to mind.

[Tartantyco]

I believe rallying points are very realistic? As far as I know, soldiers sometimes leave behind their big rucksacks, then move out to their objective and after that, return to the rallying point and pick up their stuff. I do think it's different depending on the situation and area of operation.

-As in a stack of sacks that allow teleportation to the battlefield.

[mrjoe(ita)]

oh come on the discussion here is different... it's a game bug to place a rally on water because it cannot be destroyed in any way, unless u are three people in a 50m range.... (btw it does not always work, once i stood with my 4 men squad righ next to an enemy rally and nothig happened...)
does the rally point gets overrun even if u stab it?

[General_J0k3r]

don't rallies placed in the water go *puff* after some time? at least i was under the impression given i have tried this "tactic" on sunset lately and it didnt work

[killa009]

wow haven't seen that before

[[FIN]-=Johnny=-]

Yes... it sucks when you found enemy rally point under water, and you cant knife it.... have to shoot it , haveto to nade... and they just keep on spawning... and evently it will destroy... and it suuuucks...
those who make those rallys in the water.... gutless ppl...

[kumade]

-First, you said that it was cheating and not "unrealistic", second; rally points themselves are not realistic so your complaint is a little "unrealistic", and third; why does spawning in the water under the bridge strike you as more unrealistic than spawning anywhere else?

1. It's cheating because it's unrealistic. And when i play in "Project REALITY", i want to lay on reality principles as much as possible.
2. I dont think about rally points as just spawn place. As AfterDune said, these points has some equivalent in real life. May be some camp where soldiers of same squad must meet wit heach other or regroup. So, this cant be under water.
3. See 1 and 2.
Anyway. This is my opinion and nothing can change it. It's PR-community to decide must this be fixed or not.

[=BTB= LoftyB]

1. It's cheating because it's unrealistic.

So its realistic that there are spawn points in the first place? If soldiers die in the field, they dont magically appear at a spawn point, they're dead, deceased, passed away (and any other word that means DEAD). Im not sayin there shouldnt be rally points, but if they're under water, so what, get over it, if someone spawns in, put a bullet in their head. Its only a damn game. get over it.

[kumade]

So its realistic that there are spawn points in the first place? If soldiers die in the field, they dont magically appear at a spawn point, they're dead, deceased, passed away (and any other word that means DEAD). Im not sayin there shouldnt be rally points, but if they're under water, so what, get over it, if someone spawns in, put a bullet in their head. Its only a damn game. get over it.

Yes, soldiers dies when they shooted But rally points are not a place to spawn for the same soldier , who just died. There comes a new recruit (and team get -1 to posible reinforcements), You just control both of them, but they are different persons I've always thinkied about spawning in BF in this way.

[Tomato-Rifle]

I thought it disappeared after time when its in the water?

[fuzzhead]

Indeed putting a rallypoint underwater would to me consider an exploit.

For future versions maybe we will be able to tweak the materials to take damage in water, but is a prety low priority.

[Carter]

Weather its an exploit or not, I don't think it has much of an influence on gameplay. It may be a little irritating but how could you consider it a game without one or two things like that. I don't think its even being done very often, probably only when somebody is desperate to hide their rally. Personally, I find it funny to see a rally in the water and when somebody spawns at it they make for an easy kill.

[503]

Just constantly shoot it. I'm not sure if bullets can go through water though.