SL Training 2009 - interest?

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fuzzhead
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SL Training 2009 - interest?

Post by fuzzhead »

A while ago I did a couple training sessions over the course of a couple weekends, to demonstrate how players could more effectively lead a proper infantry squad in PR. There was some interest back then and I might do something like this again if there is some interest. Heres some vids bigbossmatt made during one of the sessions, it was okay (even though I was actually on 2 hours sleep hungover haha):

YouTube - Project Reality Squad Training pt. 1 of 5

You can see in the video its been a while since I last ran these, and there is some stupid exploitive things (like the infinite ammo bag routine), but I would still like to maintain the concept of the original training sessions.

I dont simply want to run a training session for new players of PR, because I do that most gameplay nights anyways when a new guy joins my squad, and I hope that others players do that too, if a new guy joins your squad, help him out, show him some cool stuff and show him some cool tips, tactics and a good fun.

The concept for this training is to train current squad leaders and potential squad leaders how to train OTHER's and also how to train others to BE squad leaders. I think its prety clear that PR still lacks alot of leadership minded players, and alot of the current ones may want some help in becoming more effective at deploying realistic infantry tactics in a PR setting.

If your one of the above, and want to become an effective SL in PR, then let post in this thread to show your interest level.

I'm not certain on the details yet, but some minimum requirements will be:

- working microphone
- mumble installed (or willing to install)
- mature and teamwork orientated player
- listening skills and some patience required

What we did in the earlier training sessions and I will probably do again is just meet up on the mumble server and then go to a public server, do some introduction to some tactics and ways to handle players, then go through and play on the server for a while - applying the tactics we just learned to real live situations.

I'm willing to do these training sessions and maybe record some more as I got some motivation watching some good gameplay vids with solid action, but a decided lack of coherent leadership. I think above any coding change we can make as developers, getting players into leadership roles and behaving in a realistic/believable manner is a much bigger step than any change we can make, and I think that kind of behavior would increase the enjoyability of this mod alot more for the whole community.

Now I am by no means the authority of squad leading - there are many better squad leaders than me and I am still learning new things every day. However I am known to be somewhat patient and have some time on my hands atm so that is the main pre-requisites for doing something like this ;)

I am learning new stuff everyday as well so I hope that this is a learning experience for not just the people who sign up who are new, but also for people who sign up who may be long time PR squad leaders, and I as well hope to learn and enhance my current SL skills.

Let me hear your thoughts


Potential Squad Leaders expressing interest:
Payne1cav
Scandicci
Welsh Boy
gazzthompson
Zimmer
Hammell
Dev1200
Pte.Paynter
cyberzomby
Snazz
Cpt. Trips
Noobofthenight
Tartantyco
Spriggan
Charity Case
Rico
Outlawz
MrSh@vid
saqaali
bkandor
hiberNative
chargat
llPANCHOll
Tranzparent
Runningman
Adriaan
Raufbold
brodidly
killer_01000
shribey22
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Payne1cav
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Post by Payne1cav »

Sign me up, Im always willing to learn
Scandicci
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Post by Scandicci »

I AM IN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Fuzz, lots of interest here in Sicily. I had suggested/asked you do this sort of thing last year and am so glad that you are doing this again, hopefully. I watched Bigbossmatt's videos before installing PR on my computer back during V0.7.

I frequently SL and enjoy doing it but would love to learn some more tips or pointers.

Weekends are best for me and timezones are not an issue. I will just OD on espresso.

Thanks,

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Welshboy
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Post by Welshboy »

I'm making more of an effort to squad lead every day, i'm not the best but i guess i have a lot to learn so sign me up.

And yes i do have mumble installed.
I have the next 2 weeks off so i should be able to make them. Best time for me would be from 1PM bst to 3AM bst. My Xfire is welshboy2142 if you want to add me


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gazzthompson
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Post by gazzthompson »

depending on date and time, id be willing to come (always up for learning some new stuff hopefully)

i can also (probably) provide a locked server.
Zimmer
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Post by Zimmer »

depedning on date and time. Always something to learn, besides I am not the best SL.
Hammell
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Post by Hammell »

I SL every time I play, so this is almost mandatory for me. Sign me up - Hammell
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Dev1200
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Post by Dev1200 »

Sounds great, do you have any date/time planned yet?

My Email is [email protected] if your getting a list going.
In-game name is Deviante1300
Xfire is Deviante1300

Also, I'll install mumble as well. Best time would be on a weekend =)


I've been squad leading lots of different types of squads in the past, since PR .7.
Pte.Paynter
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Post by Pte.Paynter »

Sign me up Fuzz can't wait for the help in SL tactics :lol:

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cyberzomby
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Post by cyberzomby »

Yeap :) Ofcourse it depends wether I have something that I need to go to that weekend. But if not, im in!

I like to squad-lead sometimes but I can still learn a lot. Also dont mind teaching other players the ropes or be like a corporal in my squad, helping the current squad-leader when he doesnt see something important.

- working microphone, Check
- mumble installed (or willing to install), Check
- mature and teamwork orientated player, Check
- listening skills and some patience required, Check
Snazz
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Post by Snazz »

I believe I meet the minimum requirements so I'm interested in trying to partake in this.

Squad leading is my biggest weakness in PR and may not even be solvable, but I'm sure I'd at least learn something helpful.
Cpt. Trips
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Post by Cpt. Trips »

Would definitely participate in this.

I hate it when a SL leaves and the rest of the squad keep leaving and joining to cycle the responsibility of SL round, but I always feel way too n00b to man up and take the role myself.

And, of course, I meet all the min. spec.
Noobofthenight
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Post by Noobofthenight »

I'd be willing to help with it, I've got a few tactics and ideas I think I could bring to the table, and obviously, I might learn a thing or two from other SLs.

I'm a fairly decent enough SL, I'd have said.
Tartantyco
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-If you need any additional trainers I'd be happy to help out.
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X1 Spriggan
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Post by X1 Spriggan »

Great idea Fuzzhead. I was always wondering when you think it would be a good time to update those old videos.

I guess the next step after this is training squad leaders to work together in joint operation. If this sort training proves to be successful in creating more communicative squad leaders, it would be an excellent time to make two or more squads working together almost a big fad. Hopefully in the future, PR will have grown into something where you will see multiple squads working together rather than drifting apart into the map.
Charity Case
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Post by Charity Case »

I'm interested in participating.
Rico
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Post by Rico »

I think a lot of people will be interested in this, so do you reckon you can record it all and make a video? That would be great for those that can't attend, but can still watch and learn from it. Infact, you should make it a big news feature as it would do wonders for the community if it raised the bar for SL's.
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Post by Outlawz7 »

Set a fixed date for NA and EU, I would love to participate but can't promise anything until you give out a date.
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MrSh@vid
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Post by MrSh@vid »

I would love to participate and can meet the criteria-would love to join in, as i enjoy Sl, but am pretty poor at it.
Sundance Kid
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Post by Sundance Kid »

Cool..Hope this will help ppl to lead their squads better.

nice idea.


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