pr training servers, is there any point?

[shadowcreaper]

I decided to try a training server to pratice my shooting/sniping.

this is what i find;

100% full of teamkillers,
all air units dont bomb the "bombing" zones but instead bomb freindly people ie pratice zones for infi for example, very anoying spawning die, spawn, die, spawn get a kit then get bombed, die.

there from what i see 0 targets to shoot at in training servers, no "siloete" targets nor fake enermy from which u can pratice shooting at.

i think training servers are pointless as i died more in them as in normal servers, due to pure tking fools messing around in air units bombing the non bombing zones.

also training servers seem to have 0 admins or control over anoying/tking players.

so my question is...

why bother having them if it impossible to even play in them with 0 server controle or targets from which to shoot at..

[Rudd]

training server

=

place where the smacktards go, rather than ruin our fun on normal servers.

Though, I agree the main problem is that bombs go everywhere so the infantry can't do anything. But then again, if they could it would just be a 1sec spawn PR...which would be a little naf.

Best thing is to go on a empty training server with some friends.

iirc there was som1 working on making training a little more...well...useful for training (destructibles and 'missions' to destroy them etc)

[badmojo420]

You died more in training then in real games because the spawn time is about 3 seconds.

It's impossible to 'play' in training servers. Because you're not supposed to play in them. You're there to familiarize yourself with the equipment. Which is easy to do even with dozens of idiots trying to TK you. You've got lots of assets that almost instantly re-spawn. Friendly fire is turned off. And enemies care little if they are killed.

The ONLY problem i can see with training servers is training with Jets, as they can be blown up easily and the runways also can be destroyed. Other then that, it should be very easy to train with almost any weapon or asset. I say this from expirence. I've used them to train with Tanks, APCs, Helicopters, Mines, Sniper, 50cal, AA emplacement, just to name a few.

If you want targets to fire at, set up outside the infantry training area. If you want armor to fire at, go near that bridge in the NW. If you want AA emplacement training, setup anywhere. I'll admit it is pretty confusing and unforgiving to newer players. But it's not ment to be a training course, rather it was ment to be a safe area to play around without facing HUGE penalties for your mistakes.

[cyberzomby]

Well I agree with most of the points here. But I do say that I apreciate training mode. Was really helpfull training my chopper skills so I could dare to go online in a real game

[waldo_ii]

See, what you have to do is stop thinking of the training servers as servers to train on. Instead, think of them as tard-farms, only without farmers.

[Alex6714]

The thing is, you went on the 40+ full training server, and expected to have lots of infantry people to train sniping as...


Its like walking into a church in full prayer and saying Allah Ackbah...

Anyway, the way I see it, if you want to train flying/shooting, you do so on a local/low populated server.

If you want to train tactics, evasion etc then you go on a full training server.

I was on there earlier, when you were complaining. I don´t much know what was happening with the jets training, because I wasn´t there, all I know is that Mr. Tunguska and Mr. M1A2 had a very good time.

The point I see is:

It takes people away from the normal servers and lets the mess around without affecting others.

If you don´t like it, don´t play there, its not doing you any harm, it really isnt that hard when there are almost 300 servers to chose from.

Its a fun break from normal PR in which you get to play with assets and formation fly, practice AA (which btw, with 157 kills to 30 deaths (most of them from running out of ammo) actually works better than some imagine, if they actually took the time to try it. ), etc.

[Cheditor]

Alex you mean your 150+ kills earlier today ^^

[Alex6714]

All it takes is a bit of logic and an AAV, and you have got it made, at the current state, even a monkey could do it

[charliegrs]

id really rather we have training servers for people to learn to fly in then crash the planes in a real server.

[laikiunreal]

no but trainning servers are good to try flying skills (witch means that you must be in the American-infidel side) other than that you will be using AA vehicles all day...what i want to say is if you respawn as MEC is going to be boring as hell in a trainning server, IMO.

[Welshboy]

Alex you mean your 150+ kills earlier today ^^

That was fun

[charliegrs]

no but trainning servers are good to try flying skills (witch means that you must be in the American-infidel side) other than that you will be using AA vehicles all day...what i want to say is if you respawn as MEC is going to be boring as hell in a trainning server, IMO.

well most training servers dont have auto balance on, so you dont have to be mec. if you want to practice flying, yes you have to be on the american side. what difference does it make? its not like the mec jets fly drastically different.

[Snazz]

why bother having them if it impossible to even play in them with 0 server controle or targets from which to shoot at..

Because your limited and unfortunate experience is not shared by everyone else.

Servers like War Is Hell have kick voting and pretty regular admins so tards are dealt with, there are times where they get away with it but theres ways to avoid them.

If all you're doing is trying to learn how to fly a jet and someones bombing the airfield, just join another server or make your own. If you don't want to leave the server try training with another asset until the tard gets bored or is punished.

As for targets, I find if the servers populated theres almost always someone on the other side.

You've just had some bad rounds and are understandably frustrated, but it's not what always happens and it's certainly not unavoidable.

All it takes is a bit of logic and an AAV, and you have got it made, at the current state, even a monkey could do it

It's amusing when people consider themselves skillful and brag about it when they shoot down a lot of aircraft with an AAV in a training server. Lock on AA missiles don't require any accuracy or teamwork and noob pilots are some of the easiest targets imaginable.

[Alex6714]

It's amusing when people consider themselves skillful and brag about it when they shoot down a lot of aircraft with an AAV in a training server. Lock on AA missiles don't require any accuracy or teamwork and noob pilots are some of the easiest targets imaginable.

Which was the point of my comment.

[socomseal45]

Training servers are actually helpful believe it or not. I've had games with the tking smacktards that got booted after being punished 3 times. If the airfields are busy being shot up, ask someone to go tanking with you or do something else.

[laikiunreal]

well most training servers dont have auto balance on, so you dont have to be mec. if you want to practice flying, yes you have to be on the american side. what difference does it make? its not like the mec jets fly drastically different.

yes, but if everybody is in the American side, who is going to be shoot at?

[epoch]

If you want to make a visit to a training server worthwhile, get a few friends to come join you. Then you can arrange between yourselves who's going to do what, and where.

I do that on my training server from time to time. Get a few [T&T]'ers on - a few on one side acting as bait, whilst those on the other side take them out.

And if you don't have friends, make some!

[JohnTheRipper]

Well training servers the small ones that have people that are respectable in them can help a lot because i spent a whole week once just practicing Laser guided missiles and bombs from the tornado and now I can hit always anything if my pilot is good, i almost downed a helo to (well it was flying). Note the guy flying it said it was ok since we were all just messsing around in bombing range then.

[marcoelnk]

edit, wrong thread.