[Mini-mod Proposal] Late Cold War+Desert Storm

[chuckduck]

162eRI;991429']Why not Cold Reality ^_^

High priority for USA vs CCCP, but keep in mind for after that doing USSR allies is easy as they are using mostly soviet equipments. Like the DDR (East Germany) would only need a new truck and perhaps some few more vehicles.

The problem will only be for the USSR and its allies about the player models. MEC could be a good placeholder, but we really need some new models (especially the helmet)

Yes your right the USSR and DDR2 (sorry could help putting that in :wink are very similar while the US and West Ger. are more indiependent from each others technoogies.

Right now MEC soldier models will be a good substitute for the Soviet soldiers, since they have the most similar in helmet shape.

Your idea for the name gave me another idea, "Red Reality" Although it isnt so obvious what it is...

[torenico]

Democracy Last Legs

Fate of the World

Project Armageddon

Project Apocalypse

Project Red Storm

I would like to Map for this guys... i got in mind some maps for the Norwegian forces.. but i was thinking about a map located somewhere in Poland.. a clash between the US and the USSR. Sadly we dont have Snow yet.. i would like an Murmansk Map

[chuckduck]

Democracy Last Legs

Fate of the World

Project Armageddon

Project Apocalypse

Project Red Storm

I would like to Map for this guys... i got in mind some maps for the Norwegian forces.. but i was thinking about a map located somewhere in Poland.. a clash between the US and the USSR. Sadly we dont have Snow yet.. i would like an Murmansk Map

Oh yeah remember, the Murmansk map from WiC, yeah we need to wait for the snow to get that one underway, not to mention the Snow camo skins.

No offence but some of those names give off the wrong impression (like the mods gona be packed with nukes and weapons of mass dissruction) "Fate of the World is not specific to the minimod. But Project Red Storm sounds good. , i know your trying to relate to WiC but les keep the names short a sweet. Prefrably, "Project"...something..

Design Plan 1.Google Spreadsheet Link

BTW:Ive made the fist mod design plan....it isnt really a plan yet but im gonna add more tommoro.

[Sights]

I definitely like Project Red Storm, but if you're looking for something a little more flavourful, maybe something like Project Krasniy Shtorm (Красный шторм - I believe that's the correct translation into Russian... anybody confirm that?) would add that little extra defining factor, make it a little more unique and recognisable as well as sounding awesome.

EDIT: Just realised, post 100! Excellent.

[Howitzer]

Project Cold Reality sounds badass and still straight forward

[torenico]

I took some names from HoI2 mods and AARs hehe. Exept for Project Red Storm.

[chuckduck]

I've picked these so far

1. Project Red Storm
2. Project Red Bear
3. Operation Red Bear (Could be a map...)
4. Cold Reality

Other suitible names would be good if they include Project or Reality.

Other Original names would be good, similar to World In Conflict... you know something along those lines. But not something that sounds a bit strange.

[Rambo Hunter]

A Cold Reality sounds the best IMO

And for weapons we'll need the M16A2 or A1 as the main battle rifle, and maybe the M3 "Grease Gun" for crewmen and the M249 should be fine for the automatic rifleman, along with the M14 (With a proper wood stock).
We may also need new player models that reflect ALICE webbing, as opposed to MOLLE/PALS webbing. I believe the current models already use the PASGT helmet, and I was able to skin on the proper protective vest in my ~1989 skins already. (I need to figure out which external drive they're sitting on, so I'm working on getting them to you)
Do we want to represent the US Army or USMC in this? The only big difference I see right now is using either the AH-1 or AH-64 and the UH-1 or UH-60 for the Marines or Army, respectively. However, the USMC helicopters are a much more modern variation than their Cold War counterparts.

[charliegrs]

Project Iron curtain?

[Naruto-kun]

i smell WiC all the way!

[chuckduck]

Yeah Cold Reality sounds good, but i also like something with red in it. Well decide that later.

Well Rambo Hunte i will go through ur post first.

M16A2
A M16A2 should be to hard to make (BTW there is no way in hell that im using stock vBF2 M16s, it will just start giving people nightmares again)
When we were making the M16A4 people kept saying "oh why havent you made the M16A4 for this release yet?! All you have to do is add a RIS handgaurd and a AGOG scope to the BF2 model!! ) Then the DEVs said, "We cannot edit BF2 models so we have to build a M16A4 from scratch"
Well all we have to do is change the handgaurd on the [PR Made] M16A4 and add a permanent carry handle.

Also what do u think about not having ACOGs etc in this minimod. Just iron sights, or if you can think of a ACOG substitute plz tell me, cuz we could put PSO sights on the Soviet AKs.

Grease Gun
Grease gun? Wouldnt they use M16A2 carbines or those experimental carbines they used in vietnam, they are called the "XM773" or something? Grease gun would be fun to see, but didnt they go out of production in 1945. The last time they really used them was in Vietnam. Correct me if im wrong.

M249 SAW (Minimi)
Well the M249 is almot fine how it is, but being accurate to the time period, our SAWs in PR know are slightly different. Remember the M249 was still very new by then.
PR NOW:

BACK THEN:

Not a big deal but if we ever get a chance to change it we should.

M14
Yeah i think we should retexture them to look like wood instead of high desnity plastic. because the M14s were surplus back then but still quite new.

M40
Might need redo so the stock is at M40A1 levels. (This isnt a top priority though)

Other Weapons Solutions will be posted on the exel document, soon.


Well since normal PR hasnt got any new player models i wouldnt wory too much about the US models just yet. The surrent ones with ur skins would do for now.
The Soviet soldier models need more attention though, becauase we probably have to use a mec playermodel for now.

As for the US Army/US Marines part, we are trying to depict a joint effort with these two forces. So maybe have the AH1W/S and the Apache. There isnt really any difference between the US Marine and US Army at that time. Just some weapons and vehicles.
The troops will most likeley be US Army/National Guard while some of te vehicles will be USMC.
Maybe we could have both the only differences being in weapons, vehicles and maps.

Thx guys.

[Panzerfire]

Perhaps you could include 1 or 2 USSR VS The Mujahideen sceneries trying to replicate the Soviet war in Afghanistan.
You could use the Taleban faction for it.

[chuckduck]

yeah that sounds like agood map idea. But right now i guess were a concentrating in making the US vs USSR, in the invasion or the US.

[Hitman.2.5]

M60 tanks FTW

[Hitman.2.5]

Yeah tht grease gun was probably thrown away after vietnam XD wasnt a very good gun TBH XD

[chuckduck]

Yeah hopefully the M60A3 tank will have White Phosporus Rounds to make infantry run in fear...
yeah the grease gun is bassically a peice of metal plumbing.

[Clypp]

Nice. Personally I would prefer early Cold-War such as in the 60s. As a back story you could say the Cuba Missile Crisis escalated into a full on war with the Soviet Union. This might be too much work since fewer models could be reused but there was so much awesome tech at the time that is never depicted in games.

[AnimalMother.]

i've been tinkering about making my own little SP mod thingy that was simply US vs USSR

would love it if something kinda replicated the feeling to WiC but from the ground level

[chuckduck]

Nice. Personally I would prefer early Cold-War such as in the 60s. As a back story you could say the Cuba Missile Crisis escalated into a full on war with the Soviet Union. This might be too much work since fewer models could be reused but there was so much awesome tech at the time that is never depicted in games.

Personally i do agree with you that, if there was a 60s-70s era of cold war games it would be very different. Also that era has never really been covered before. Theres a gap betwen WWII and Games set in more modern times. But due to lack of models for that era, its probnably unlikley...unless we have loads of support and people are willing to make all that stuff.

A also like the idea of a vietnam reality mod, but since EoD has already been made, and making a vietnam reality minimod would be straying away from the whole idea of PR.

LATE COLD WAR DESIGN PLAN 1