M-4, M-16 6.8 SPC

[xXbrick84Xx]

I don't think this one has already been suggested. I know it hasn't happened yet, but theUS Military is considering bumping the M-4 and M-16 up from a 5.56mm (basically a .223) to the newly developed 6.8 Caliber, in the near future. It has roughly the same bullet diameter but packs a little more punch than the 5.56, I believe it is a 115 grain bullet ( the weight of the bullet while in flight) vs. the 5.56's 62 grains. The velocity, is a little less though, due to increased bullet weight, but the 6.8 is just as accurate, if not more accurate, and packs a whole lot more punch, almost equal to the AK. If you guys could add this round to certain maps, not all because it is not yet standard issue, that would be awesome.

Any input??

Thanks,
Brick

[waldo_ii]

• the US Military is considering bumping the M-4 and M-16 up from a 5.56mm (basically a .223) to the newly developed 6.8 Caliber
• It has roughly the same bullet diameter but packs a little more punch than the 5.56
• The velocity, is a little less though, due to increased bullet weight, but the 6.8 is just as accurate,
• packs [...] more punch, almost equal to the AK.

Oh no.... this boy has a serious case of Future Weaponz Syndrome! The phases of curing will be long and hard, but I think we can convince this player that Future Weapons != the truth.

1. The US military will not adopt any round for any infantry rifle other than the 9mm, 5.56x45mm, 7.62x51mm, 12.7x99mm rounds. These are the rounds that have been standardized by the NATO. There is no way in sweet hell that any NATO country is adopting a weapon that fires anything other than these rounds.

2. "roughly the same bullet diameter" = 22% larger. (Don't give me any BS about it making up for that because it is shorter: only 2mm)

3. "Little less velocity" = Difference of 140 meters per second. 17% slower.

4. Equal "punch" to the AK means equal forces of the expanding bullet. This means it will have exactly the same amount of recoil that the AK47 will have. Every action has an equal opposite action. This means far fewer shots on target, the time between shots is longer, the shooter is fatigued far quicker, and due to the increased weight, the shooter will carry fewer rounds.

5. Not mentioned is the ballistic coefficient. I wonder why...



The 5.56 round was developed as a result of an extensive military-funded testing project. The project concluded that an ~.22 caliber bullet would be the best because of its light weight (more rounds on the soldier, more rounds in the mag), high number of rounds downrange (two quick shots drops better than one strong one), much improved accuracy, higher ballistic coefficient, low recoil, modern principles of warfare (suppression: many sparatic (sp) shots compared to few, timed, accurate shots), cost, weapon size/weight, etc etc.


Soon after the US/NATO adopted the 5.56x45mm round, Russia switched to the 5.45x39 round, and China followed suit with its 5.8mm round. They weren't just copying us- they did their own research and came to the same conclusions that we did.





Edit: I don't mean to go all hard-*** on you with the sig and all. "Future Weapons" is so full of ****, yet so believable, that it has become a sort of meme here (as we have tons of gun-freaks, such as myself, who can argue nearly any line that is said in that show).

[charliegrs]

I don't think this one has already been suggested. I know it hasn't happened yet, but theUS Military is considering bumping the M-4 and M-16 up from a 5.56mm (basically a .223) to the newly developed 6.8 Caliber, in the near future. It has roughly the same bullet diameter but packs a little more punch than the 5.56, I believe it is a 115 grain bullet ( the weight of the bullet while in flight) vs. the 5.56's 62 grains. The velocity, is a little less though, due to increased bullet weight, but the 6.8 is just as accurate, if not more accurate, and packs a whole lot more punch, almost equal to the AK. If you guys could add this round to certain maps, not all because it is not yet standard issue, that would be awesome.

Any input??

Thanks,
Brick

sources my friend, sources.

[Eddie Baker]

The 6.8 has been suggested before; please use search.