How do people spot and target me in grass??

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Regan
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How do people spot and target me in grass??

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Can someone tell me if I have a setting that gives me a disadvantage to some other players? I play with all my settings on high and seem to have a lot of problems scoping (targeting) enemy while I’m prone in grass. The worse bit about all this is that they are able to target me no problem, it’s like the grass isn’t there for them.

This isn’t something that has just happened once or twice, it happens all the time to me and has started to make me very suspicious! So is it because I have all my settings set to high or what? :-? :-?
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if i remember correctly grass doesnt render at a certain distance. so you may think your hidden but to the enemy you appear plain as day. its one of the many shortcomings of the bf2 engine. its part of the reason why the ghillie suit was removed from the sniper.
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ReaperMAC
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Low terrain settings don't render grass as far as on High settings. Yeah it sucks as well.
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Undergrowth grass does not render past like 100 m.
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Post by Smegburt_funkledink »

Don't worry dude, it's being worked on, well, hopefully for the majority of the large fields etc... :D

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Regan
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Re: How do people spot and target me in grass??

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[R-CON]ReaperMAC wrote:Low terrain settings don't render grass as far as on High settings. Yeah it sucks as well.
Then why isn't the low terrain setting disabled? That way everyone would be forced to see the same things. I don't see the point in making the game look and play less tactical by switching off certain graphics, and I am sure by now, that most people who have this game will have a graphics card capable of running terrain on high, I know if didn't I would seriously think about giving Pc games up.
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Sgt.Smeg wrote:Don't worry dude, it's being worked on, well, hopefully for the majority of the large fields etc... :D

https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f316-2 ... ields.html
Regan wrote:Then why isn't the low terrain setting disabled? That way everyone would be forced to see the same things. I don't see the point in making the game look and play less tactical by switching off certain graphics, and I am sure by now, that most people who have this game will have a graphics card capable of running terrain on high, I know if didn't I would seriously think about giving Pc games up.
Well, there are people who can barely run PR (which by now they should upgrade by now... or soon) on higher graphics so they have no choice but to set it to low for smoother gameplay, but there are solutions that don't involve forcing everyone to play on higher settings like Smeg mentioned.
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gazzthompson
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Re: How do people spot and target me in grass??

Post by gazzthompson »

well, like crazyasian11 said.. high or low it wont render past 100m.
Regan
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gazzthompson wrote:well, like crazyasian11 said.. high or low it wont render past 100m.
So what distance does it render on low and what distance on high?
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Post by Deer »

Regan wrote:So what distance does it render on low and what distance on high?
Grass drawing distance depends on map and your view distance on graphic settings if i remember correctly. But if you lower your view distance, you wont see as far away as with high view distance. At the best undergrowth grass is being drawn to 100metres.
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high vs low @800*600
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Never think your hidden when lying down etc in undergrowth grass, the only time hiding in grass/crops is effective at providing concealment is when it is overgrowth grass/crops. The tall grass in Fallujah West is grass you can hide in and know you're concealed, the same will apply with all of the grass/crops in Sangin.
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man it aint worth it i just wish i can run stuff on high. i run every thing on low (exept visiblty cuz i tank alot) and only way i see ppl in grass is really far away
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Regan
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I have switched terrain setting back to high. I just hate to seeing things popping up infront of me on the low setting. I saw a poll that states lots more people run this on high settings than they do on low. And if that poll is anything to go by then I would disable low terrain setting.
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Post by TheLean »

This issue annoys the **** out of me. I can shoot you guys when you think you are hidden but it does not make me feel proud. IMO all old maps should be redrawn with the falluja grass or something similar but less dense. This should have priority one, I can take half a year withouth new maps if you guys concentrate on this.
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Re: How do people spot and target me in grass??

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TheLean wrote:This issue annoys the **** out of me. I can shoot you guys when you think you are hidden but it does not make me feel proud. IMO all old maps should be redrawn with the falluja grass or something similar but less dense. This should have priority one, I can take half a year withouth new maps if you guys concentrate on this.
Hah, something tells me itd be a bit more work than a half a year to redo all the maps and frankly most maps arent worth redoing just for the undergrowth. Its only an issue on maps like OGT and such[tall grass] ;)

From here on though, maps with taller grass will use the new method.

However, I dont think the short low grass from vBF2 will be going anywhere as thats merely visual...
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