Bolt Action .50 Cal ?

Hex · Post by **Hex** » 2006-05-20 09:06

i just wanted to suggest this .50 Cal Bolt action maybe you guys will like it.

its a McMillan M87-R, same people that make the fiberglass stock for the M24

. give it some consideration. this thing would be awesome

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-05-20 10:37

Heh, rifle looks awesome, one of my favourites in the matter of sexiness ;]
.50.... hmmm...
7.62 -> BOOM ! Headshot!
.50 - > BOOM! Jeep !

^^

Scott01 · Post by **Scott01** » 2006-05-20 10:52

I'm not sure if it's currently used by any of the military forces which feature in PRMM, afterall the mods idea was originally to re-create realism however if it is currently used IRL - Im all for it

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-05-20 12:27

The correct .50 rifle used by the USMC is the M107, but the thing is it's semi automatic. Overkill? Well, we could always use the M95.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm

The .50 used by the PLA is the Type 99. It's very similar to the said M107.

Seeing as the MEC don't exist, they don't actually have .50 rifle. I did some looking around, and here are some .50s that look MECish.

The French PGM Helcate II

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn35-e.htm

The Russian KSVK

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn50-e.htm

The Yugoslavian M93 Black Arrow

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn59-e.htm

If the class system works, Anti Materiel rifles would be great.

[ZiiP]DarkJester · Post by **[ZiiP]DarkJester** » 2006-05-20 13:30

That M93 looks rather funky.

the.ultimate.maverick · Post by **the.ultimate.maverick** » 2006-05-20 13:32

Malik - when thinking about MEC, you have to consider, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Oman and UAE etc.

To get a weapon in as 'realistic' i think the DEVs want evidence of either export to on of those countries, or at least a licenced clone.

Pence · Post by **Pence** » 2006-05-20 13:39

The Eryx is french, i think if they are willing to buy that; then... yea.

[T]Terranova7 · Post by **[T]Terranova7** » 2006-05-20 14:50

Malik wrote:The correct .50 rifle used by the USMC is the M107, but the thing is it's semi automatic. Overkill? Well, we could always use the M95.

http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn02-e.htm

From what I know though, the M107 has so much recoil, it makes it almost impossible to use in a semi-automatic manner.

M8/M320 · Post by **M8/M320** » 2006-05-20 15:20

People look at it. The PLA rifle is extremley similar to the new AI AS50 that the U.S. Socom chose as it's high caliber sniper rifle. http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn67-e.htm And this is why I hate playing as China, they are just a bunch of rip-offers.

Cerberus · Post by **Cerberus** » 2006-05-20 15:31

Malik wrote:The correct .50 rifle used by the USMC is the M107, but the thing is it's semi automatic. Overkill? Well, we could always use the M95.

There's so much damn recoil that you wouldn't be able to fire it like you can fire the SVD (in PR)

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-05-20 16:26

Hex wrote:its a McMillan M87-R, same people that make the fiberglass stock for the M24 . give it some consideration. this thing would be awesome

Hi, Hex. The McMillan M87-R is no longer made, at least not exactly the way it was and with that model number; it was manufactured before Harris Gunworks bought out McMillan, and subsequently went out of business. However, the SEALs did use a relative of it, the McMillan M88.

Naval Special Warfare (SEALs / SWCC / SDV) and Special Operations (EOD / Mine Countermeasures) now use the Mk-15, which is also called the Product Improved M88. It's basically the McMillan Tac-50, the same rifle made famous by the Canadian sniper team from 3 PPCLI, with NSW's choice of optics.

Malik- the USMC actually uses a slightly different model which they call the M82A3. The Army uses the M107, which is also an improved M82. Interestingly enough it was the M95 that emerged as the winner of the XM107 trials, but the Army changed the requirements afterwards.

As I've said before, though, not every weapon or vehicle is going to have an exact equivalent on every team. If every weapon was a clone of another weapon, it would not be an exciting game or realistic.

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-05-20 16:37

Is it just me or does it seem like every branch execpt the Army has the really small looking .50BMG's

That one looks like a rifle

And this one doesn't look beefy enough to fire a .50 round let alone those russian and chinese ones. I realize that they are the realistic rifles just look kinda wimpy to me.

Rifleman · Post by **Rifleman** » 2006-05-20 17:47

Malik - when thinking about MEC, you have to consider, Iran, Pakistan, Egypt, Oman and UAE etc.

But we have France right? They sell to the middle east everything what they need... so...
The French PGM Helcate II
http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn35-e.htm
? ;]

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-05-20 17:53

Why is it every .50 sniper rifle other then the M95 and deriavtes thereof look like really wimpy regualr sniper rifles.

We should add this as the new USMC anti-material rifle.

Malik · Post by **Malik** » 2006-05-20 17:56

It's made by Accuracy International, so really it's a British Rifle. Only the SEALs use it at the moment I believe, but if a war situation was to arise I'd say it'd be more likely the UK would use it.

Hex · Post by **Hex** » 2006-05-20 22:16

'[R-PUB wrote:trogdor1289']Is it just me or does it seem like every branch execpt the Army has the really small looking .50BMG's

That one looks like a rifle

And this one doesn't look beefy enough to fire a .50 round let alone those russian and chinese ones. I realize that they are the realistic rifles just look kinda wimpy to me.

Its not the size of the boat, its the motion in the bullet

you guys should consider tryin it out. just a suggestion would be cool not too difficult to model since it has similar characteristics as the m24. Yea the Tac .50 is what it is currently known as but it doesnt sound as kool as m87 R

Crawley · Post by **Crawley** » 2006-05-21 01:12

From what I know though, the M107 has so much recoil, it makes it almost impossible to use in a semi-automatic manner.

You shouldn't need to pull 3 shots per second with that rifle.

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-05-21 01:17

Exactly if something needs shooting 3 times with a .50 cal you should be using
another weapon lol

Eddie Baker · Post by **Eddie Baker** » 2006-05-21 01:33

Malik wrote:It's made by Accuracy International, so really it's a British Rifle. Only the SEALs use it at the moment I believe, but if a war situation was to arise I'd say it'd be more likely the UK would use it.

The UK uses two rifles at the moment, the AW-50F and the Barrett M82A1M. I have only seen the AW-50F referenced with EOD units, though, so not sure if the infantry units have access to it as well. The L115A1 certainly fills the bill for long-range anti-personnel sniping, but doesn't have the punch of the .50 against harder targets.

trogdor1289 · Post by **trogdor1289** » 2006-05-21 01:36

I think that if the class system is worked out the sniper should have the anti-material option as well as the anti-infantry option have to work out some way to stop people from using the anti-material rifle on people instead of viechles and the like though.