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Merge... sometime in the future?

much thx for the info,

and i'd love to see this included for the creation of IDF side. Right now though i think PRMM team have their hands full with getting the PRMM complete. Once they r done with the original plan hopefully we can get IDF added in.

IDF-Godzilla wrote:this is the final version i got, its still a WIP

The turret is a bit big.

Pence wrote:The turret is a bit big.

Why's that?

Pence: yep i agree with godzilla, i cross referenced it with all of my available visual file of the merkava MK4 and the size is pretty much correct. Unless u r saying the merkava mk4 IRL has a big turret then yeah they do.

Hey guys, i was thinking how the Israeli side could be looked like, here is what i come out with.
Israeli Unit List:

Merkava 4
Machbet - M163 Vulcan with Stingers
Achzarit or Namera - heavy APC unit, 1 driver, 1 OWS 12.7mm (overhead weapon system), 1 gunner with MAG 7.62mm, 4 troop capacity.
Zeev - multi-purpose armored vehicle
Desert Rider - fast attack vehicle (the one from SF ex-pack)

F-16I - strike fighter, 1 pilot with sidewinders and Vulcan, 1 weapons operator with laser guided bombs and Mavericks ATGM's.
F-15 Baz 2000 - air superiority fighter, 1 pilot with Vulcan, 4 Derby's (long range) and 4 Pyton 5's (short range).
AH-1S Cobra or AH-64DI Saraf - 1 pilot, 1 weapons operator with 8 ATGM's (SPIKE-ER's)
UH-60 Black Hawk - same as original, only with MAG MG's and not Vulcans.

Sniper - SR-99 with Jericho (Silenced) Pistol.
Special Ops - Commando Tavor Assault Rifle with Jericho (Silenced) Pistol.
Assault - Tavor Assault Rifle/M203 with Jericho Pistol.
Support - Negev with Jericho Pistol.
Engineer - Mossberg 500 with Jericho Pistol.
Medic - Tavor Assault Rifle with Jericho Pistol.
Anti Tank - SHIPON with Jericho Pistol.

looks good to me, probably need some minor tweak later but otherwise looking just fine.

Does everyone in the Israeli military carry a pistol or something?

Zepheris Casull wrote:Pence: yep i agree with godzilla, i cross referenced it with all of my available visual file of the merkava MK4 and the size is pretty much correct. Unless u r saying the merkava mk4 IRL has a big turret then yeah they do.

I was looking at an older version, if you wait a wile im getting a scanner soon.

The gun looks small and it looks like its coverd with snake skin.

i believe u r referring to merkava MK1 and MK2, the MK3 is slightly larger than MK1/2 and the MK4 is indeed significantly bigger than any of the previous model in terms of turret size.

PS: yep, i checked again with the photos i have and u are almost certainly referring to the merkava MK2. But godzilla already wrote the name of the tank when he posted the WIP as merkava 4 which i would think is the merkava MK4.

Godzilla: i am practically salivating at the idea of having nemara in game, their test record so far have been astounding to me compared to any other APC fielded in the world i've seen.

I think the MEC should use them as 'captured hardware' if anythink. Another allie, no thanks.

heh, by this point i think u have a serious sentiment against IDF or something pence. I don't know what kind of personal issue u have with israel or ur simply being stubborn but i give up convincing u at this point.

if godzilla have these WIPs ready and he says we can use them, then i think it is only fair that they are used with as much resemblance to the real world as we can.

As to the problem about too many on the western side and what not, we'll leave that to the developer to decide with us the public giving feedback. In my oppinion, there is no reason not to add IDF, the main reason we add an army is so we can blast each other with new big toys after all.

Adding more eastern block army will get redundant quickly simply because most of their weapons are bought from russian, what's the point of having multiple army using the same hardware??? Gameplay wise, that's boring... just like how the BF2 SF had several sides with different names and skin but same guns... it get stale fast.

IDF on the other hand has these plethora of wonderfull hardware to play with, and they have a perfect scenario to go to war with as side effect, i'd say they are perfect.

Zepheris Casull wrote:i believe u r referring to merkava MK1 and MK2, the MK3 is slightly larger than MK1/2 and the MK4 is indeed significantly bigger than any of the previous model in terms of turret size.

PS: yep, i checked again with the photos i have and u are almost certainly referring to the merkava MK2. But godzilla already wrote the name of the tank when he posted the WIP as merkava 4 which i would think is the merkava MK4.

Godzilla: i am practically salivating at the idea of having nemara in game, their test record so far have been astounding to me compared to any other APC fielded in the world i've seen.

I have an old Namera model as well, and a Zeev vehicle also (Humvee kind of truck)
I can post them if you guys want.

Zepheris Casull wrote:heh, by this point i think u have a serious sentiment against IDF or something pence. I don't know what kind of personal issue u have with israel or ur simply being stubborn but i give up convincing u at this point.

if godzilla have these WIPs ready and he says we can use them, then i think it is only fair that they are used with as much resemblance to the real world as we can.

As to the problem about too many on the western side and what not, we'll leave that to the developer to decide with us the public giving feedback. In my oppinion, there is no reason not to add IDF, the main reason we add an army is so we can blast each other with new big toys after all.

Adding more eastern block army will get redundant quickly simply because most of their weapons are bought from russian, what's the point of having multiple army using the same hardware??? Gameplay wise, that's boring... just like how the BF2 SF had several sides with different names and skin but same guns... it get stale fast.

IDF on the other hand has these plethora of wonderfull hardware to play with, and they have a perfect scenario to go to war with as side effect, i'd say they are perfect.

I think you are missing the point; NO MORE ALLIES.

Why no more allies? Who exactly could be an enemy that could be added in? Russia wouldn't likely ally with China, they haven't gotten along since after Stalin I also don't think they would ally with the MEC just for oil, don't they have the largest oil reserves outside the middle east? In any case, I think Russia would actually remain neutral and just send some supplies(and no, not their top weaponry) to anyone who wishes to buy.

Other than the MEC and China, who exactly could you think of fighting? North Korea I guess could work, but they're pretty much the same as China in my mind. Pakistan might work, though I figured they might be part of the MEC(once again, don't they have very similar equipment that is from Russia originally).

This isn't a game to play fare, we don't have to have an equal number of allies and enemies, in reality we would far outmatch our enemies in our allies numbers.

Africa/South America/East European?

I am takeing 'map range' into consideration thats all.

east european is going to be out of the question, check the hardware they posses and u will see why.

south america is a viable option perhaps, although as i look into their hardware list i feel a bit iffy.

afrika.... hmmmm rooivalk gunships, wow been ages since i remember this gunship.... maybe not such a bad idea, although the rest of the list is not very enticing.

having the opposing side from all known word part is fine, but if they posses too much of a similar hardware then gameplay wise that will become stale quite quickly.

how bout cambodia, laous, vietnam, or even indonesia? would be i little redundant with ak 47s and such but the gameplay would be very different relying on guerilla tactics and such. I can see indonesia supporting the MEC because of the high muslim population. i would very much liek to see russia as an enemy, but the circumstances seem more difficult than other nations.

if u want a change in scenery, china has vast mountain ranges as well as some tundra like areas. china could also invade the aleution (sp?) islands or even alaska itself. japan invaded alaska in ww2, so why cant china?

i am offtrack a bit:
since i have an indonesian friend living in aussie here with me, i can safely say that the prospect of them joining MEC is close to none. The majority of the main island (java) is muslim, correct, but the rest of the country's population are mixed, and many of them do not take kindly to the central government muslim influenced control. In particular the borneo ppl, who were mainly influenced by the old catholic missionaries and have in the past driven out influx of the javanesse ppl.

in cases like cambodia and vietnam, i think we can forgive redundant hardware with a sufficiently rewarding map. I'd say though that hardware is what makes an army fun, anyone love to get a new toy.