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Posted: 2007-03-21 12:10
by Longbow*
bobfish wrote: the rest are very Anglo-US equipment.
The rest are 4 ( not counting small ones ) countries on the Arabian Peninsula ?

Posted: 2007-03-21 13:35
by bobfish
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/middle_e ... east98.jpg

Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq and Iran are predominatly Anglo-US equipped and trained countries (all with a healthy amount of European equipment as well, as it's always for sale). Considering the US government believe the future threat of instability in the region will come from Syria and Iran, I think it's a fairly safe thing to assume Iran as the only major military power in the region would make up the backbone of the MEC Armed Forces. I don't really know anything about Yemen or Oman, Turkey is a strong western ally, and the former USSR states really have very little modern equipment.

Posted: 2007-03-21 13:55
by Longbow*
bobfish wrote:and the former USSR states really have very little modern equipment.
Former USSR states aren't that retarded to fight against US . You , westeners & USers still believe that Russia and it's former sattelites are the main threat on the Globe... come on , noone wants cold\hot war here .Thats all about your propoganda that tells you that russians are enemyes ... when they aren't . We have enough problems inside the country and noone wants another weapons race ( or whatever ; not sure if I translated it right )
Turkey, Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE, Kuwait, Iraq and Iran
Turkey is a NATO member and will be EU member soon ... so I haven't even count it . Same goes with Egypt , which betrayed USSR in 70s ..
Saudi Arabia is now buying BMP-3's , is interested in T-90s\T-95s . Iraq was armed by USSR and I'm sure that US haven't destroyed all it's tanks\helos\jets

Posted: 2007-03-21 13:58
by bobfish
When did I say that? I'm the person in this thread saying MEC shouldn't be full of Russian equipment, cause they don't have much of it.. they should be using Western equipment mainly.

And when deciding what would logically be the main type of equipment for the MEC forces, you have to take into consideration the current equipment being used by Arabic countries, which is, mainly, Anglo-US equipment with a lot of European small arms.

Thirdly, Britain, USA and Ukraine are pretty good allies atm, or did you not know your country is part of the Coalition in Iraq?

Posted: 2007-03-21 14:05
by Longbow*
bobfish wrote: did you not know your country is part of the Coalition in Iraq?
Was . Contingent is out , only one chemical batallion left .
bobfish wrote:And when deciding what would logically be the main type of equipment for the MEC forces, you have to take into consideration the current equipment being used by Arabic countries, which is, mainly, Anglo-US equipment with a lot of European small arms.
Anglo-US equipment your are speaking about is mostly used on the Arabian Peninsula . Other middle eastern countryes have up to 50% of russian weapons

Posted: 2007-03-21 14:07
by bobfish
That's still being a better ally than most of NATO :|

Posted: 2007-03-21 15:14
by azn_chopsticks_boi
getting off topic....flame wars begaining?

Posted: 2007-03-21 22:25
by dunkellic
bobfish wrote:That's still being a better ally than most of NATO :|

your point being?
as far as i know nato declared a collective self-defence case like once or twice - and most if not all nato-countries followed the call - iraq is not a nato-operation

Posted: 2007-03-21 23:16
by Griffon2-6
Longbow* wrote:Former USSR states aren't that retarded to fight against US . You , westeners & USers still believe that Russia and it's former sattelites are the main threat on the Globe... come on , noone wants cold\hot war here .Thats all about your propoganda that tells you that russians are enemyes ... when they aren't . We have enough problems inside the country and noone wants another weapons race ( or whatever ; not sure if I translated it right )

Yeah! Communist pride!
Ok, seriously guys, stop it now. I don't want to lock this thread.

Posted: 2007-03-22 14:06
by Longbow*
'[R-MOD wrote:Griffon2-6']Yeah! Communist pride!
Ok, seriously guys, stop it now. I don't want to lock this thread.
k.

Posted: 2007-03-22 15:32
by BLUFOR-73
So what's the status on this? Is it going to be added in a later version, or not?

Posted: 2007-03-22 16:13
by Longbow*
BLUFOR-73 wrote:So what's the status on this? Is it going to be added in a later version, or not?
I hope so ; but only DEV's can answer ..

Posted: 2007-06-07 02:23
by BetterDeadThanRed
I'm bumping this post because I think this needs to be heard. MEC needs the Mi-24(P variant would be preferable).

The Hind would be the most likely attack chopper to be found in any middle east conflict and there are some newer varients that may prove interesting for the near future PR. I mentioned above about the Mi-24P which has a twin 30mm cannon GSh-30K fix mounted to the side (pretty much the same cannon as the Su-25) and the capablity for two racks of four missiles (4 9M39 Igla AA missiles and 4 AT-6 spiral ATGMs, or you could just use 8 AT-6s and call it a day). So even with all that, there is still room left for 4 pylons of rockets. The rocket pods on the Mi-28 should do nicely (and look more original and modern than the conical pointed pods of the S-5 rockets) with 20 a pod, we have a grand total of 80 80mm S-8 rockets.

Clearly a beast, but we arn't done. Add 2 KORD or PKT MGs in the doors and 4 passengers and you are good to go for quick insertions.

One thing that EA failed miserably at was the handling of the Hind. The Hind may be big and clumsy, but its fast. It can easilly outrun the other attack choppers. When in full forward motion, it flies more like a jet and should be used to strafe an LZ before circling and dropping of its 6 passengers before flying off to go make the enemy wet themselves as it thunders overhead.

This also may prove to be a good complement to the *cough* V-22M *cough* *cough*

Apologies for bumping this old thread, but atleast I didn't create a new one, right?

Posted: 2007-06-07 02:48
by danthemanbuddy
I like this too, please Add. :D

Posted: 2007-06-07 03:39
by 77SiCaRiO77
add the hind only as a armed transport , notan attack heli .

the hind was designed for transport and support , not for attack and tankhunter , that why we have the havoc

Posted: 2007-06-07 04:00
by GeZe
Wow, you guys brought up an old thread of mine.

Regarding the HIND, I would like to see it as an addition to the MEC arsenal, not replacing the Mi-8 (flying cow) or Mi-28 (havoc). It would be a unique, interesting weapon.

Posted: 2007-06-07 07:04
by -=ToD=-KNIFE
Hmmm... this is interesing the Mi-24 is a Highly Verisitle Helicopter bit im going to have to Disagree with the MEC Getting it, the MEC would be looking probably for a Tank Busting Helicopter to engage US Armourd Divisions and UK Challenger 2 MBTs, the Job would then Call for the Ka-50 or Ka-52 (prefer Ka-52) But Either Way its Just a New Helicopter which the MEC Need.

Posted: 2007-06-07 07:10
by Longbow*
-=ToD=-KNIFE wrote:Hmmm... this is interesing the Mi-24 is a Highly Verisitle Helicopter bit im going to have to Disagree with the MEC Getting it, the MEC would be looking probably for a Tank Busting Helicopter to engage US Armourd Divisions and UK Challenger 2 MBTs, the Job would then Call for the Ka-50 or Ka-52 (prefer Ka-52) But Either Way its Just a New Helicopter which the MEC Need.
Mec already have Mi-28 , whats the reason to add another tank buster helo ?

Posted: 2007-06-07 07:14
by -=ToD=-KNIFE
You can never have enough of a Tank Busting Helo just as you Cant have enough Tanks :lol:

Posted: 2007-06-07 07:43
by El_Vikingo
Nah, replace the flying cow as the Hind from rambo2 is much better, passenger capability!

(I say Rambo cause I don't know what its called).