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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 11:15
by ddeo
Sure thing, I'll fix what I can but GAPS WILL STAY! :) I have question regarding 1p model and missile. Should I model tube the way to allow missile disappear from it after firing? I don't think it will be visible in 1p that tube is empty after missile has been fired.

Thanks for feedback guys and for good words. It really motivates to do further work. :)

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 11:27
by Rhino
First of all do you have a picture of the tube after the missile has been fired? I also take its "dropped on the ground and left" after firing too like most other AT weapons like it?

But ye, 1p model, the most you will possibly need is just the missile nose cap if its seen in the animations, will be seen in 3p and best to have it as 1p too, but for the weapon itself, I don't think you will need to make a fully hollow tube. However for the tube that's "dropped on the ground after firing", which is basically a "shell ejection geom effect", you will need to make a empty tube for that but that should be only 3p poly levels with decent lods etc.

Note: Doing it only this way may result in a tiny amount of time where players in 3p can still see the missile in the tube after its fired but tbh, this isn't worth all the extra parts and also have to sacrifice proper lods to get this to work.

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 12:02
by ddeo
Unfortunately not, I don't have picture of tube after missile has been fired. I think it's being dropped after firing.

Thanks Rhino, everything is clear now except one thing. How it works in vehicles, or when spike will be static weapon? What do I need to model, empty tube and missile as second model, or same as for infantry?

edit: also about projectile in 3p, I can model it, but where should I store it's texture? I could UVW projectile on separate texture sheet. After that it could be just scaled down and copied to global projectiles texture sheet when weapon will be ready and some faction will want to use it.

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 13:48
by Rhino
ddeo wrote:Thanks Rhino, everything is clear now except one thing. How it works in vehicles, or when spike will be static weapon? What do I need to model, empty tube and missile as second model, or same as for infantry?
Well the model should be pretty much the same, just with any r/l differences, problem is a PCO can't be animated like a handheld weapon.

However it may be possible to have the tube go and drop on the floor after fire though dummy weapons, but you don't need to do anything about that now that's more about the export and coding to make that happen, as long as the tube can be detached from the launcher its all good :)
ddeo wrote:edit: also about projectile in 3p, I can model it, but where should I store it's texture? I could UVW projectile on separate texture sheet. After that it could be just scaled down and copied to global projectiles texture sheet when weapon will be ready and some faction will want to use it.
The missile should be unwrapped to its own sheet, but before you do that post it up here to confirm its all good :)

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 14:36
by ddeo
Roger that!

I'll tweak the 1p model first. Hopefuly I will be able to show update today.

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 14:41
by fabioxxxx
haha Rafael should enter the war movie business ... love the 80' style .

Great model guys.

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 15:23
by Rhino
ddeo wrote:Roger that!

I'll tweak the 1p model first. Hopefuly I will be able to show update today.
rgr, btw for the 3p model you should take note of this topic: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f189-m ... apons.html

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 16:26
by ddeo
'[R-DEV wrote:Rhino;1920228']rgr, btw for the 3p model you should take note of this topic: https://www.realitymod.com/forum/f189-m ... apons.html
Yes, I know about it, but thanks for the link. I doubt I will post update today, maybe tomorrow. I want to polish model as much as possible before showing it again.

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-21 17:49
by Glimmerman
Just to let you know, you guys are awesome! :)

Nothing beats the community spirit at its finest!

keep it up! :)

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-22 13:48
by ddeo
Updated the model: p3d.in - spike
7296 tris

https://www.dropbox.com/s/7arui7kgwfdw22s/spikeweld.png
Welded up bottom and few other things. Also missile is now inside the launcher. I think modelling part is finished, what do you think, ready for UVW?

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-22 14:26
by Glimmerman
I have asked the Dutch MoD for information about the harness soldiers carry when walking around with the missile.

This as reference for the kit geom we are going to need, if or when they answer me ill let you know, when they do ill ask them for some GUI information as well so a proper HUD can be made for it :)

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-22 18:42
by Glimmerman
Made some screenshots from the locking and firing screen:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/n2b0vcxsx9hdmvt/GILL_HUD.rar

Hope they are usefull :)

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-22 18:54
by ddeo
Yeah, thanks, it's good to have these images all in one place.

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-23 20:05
by ddeo
Updated p3d link with new version of the model, I've smoother few cylinders which could be visible while arming animation. Also smoothed left handle. 7450 tris.

link: p3d.in - spike

I've started UV unwrapping the model too, but I'll have other things to do in this week too, so don't expect new updates of this model soon. ;)

Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR

Posted: 2013-07-23 20:23
by GlaDi
Great job ddeo. I just want to fire this baby :m1helmet: