[Weapon] Spike MR/LR [WIP]
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ddeo
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[Weapon] Spike MR/LR [WIP]
Hi. This is model of Spike MR/LR, it will be used by HAT kit and as static weapon (with tripod) and mounted weapon. I'm presenting model for HAT kit just for now. 7423 tris, model is finished but I'm open for some feedback, I'm still able to fix or optimize few things.
Small presentation of Spike:
And model itself: p3d.in - spike
Screenshots/wire:
http://www.dropbox.com/s/v7tg3vqecj1l2ic/spikewire1.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/2vac5irq944be1r/spikewire.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/v85qwmpkjvepv4o/spike2.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/ecp0sr3ae2rmwn8/spikewire2.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/rc1zusk75x5x9ba/spike3.png
Small presentation of Spike:
And model itself: p3d.in - spike
Screenshots/wire:
http://www.dropbox.com/s/v7tg3vqecj1l2ic/spikewire1.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/2vac5irq944be1r/spikewire.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/v85qwmpkjvepv4o/spike2.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/ecp0sr3ae2rmwn8/spikewire2.png
http://www.dropbox.com/s/rc1zusk75x5x9ba/spike3.png
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Kalasznikow47
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
WOW that's just beautiful... ddeo great job! You're my hero. I can't wait for destroy something armoured with this awesome weapon 
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Rhino
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Ye looking good, the missile itself needs a lot of optimization for it to be a projectile but the launcher is looking good, although it still looks like you need to put the nose of the missile inside the launcher for when the cap is removed you can see the missile tip 
Other than that its coming along well!
Also interesting seeing that "Fire and Forget Plus" mode (although technically with that feature it really isn't fire and forget if you use it
), wasn't aware this missile had that kind of feature 
Other than that its coming along well!
Also interesting seeing that "Fire and Forget Plus" mode (although technically with that feature it really isn't fire and forget if you use it
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gipakok
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Will the IDF have it too once this is finished?
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Kerryburgerking
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
So who'll get this? Poland and IDF?
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Moszeusz6Pl
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Rhino
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
If used by the Brits only really as a better alternative place holder than the TOW Missile 
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gipakok
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Although won't this weapon be kinda unbalanced? The MR (Gil) has a range of 2.5km and the LR (Gomed) has a range of 4km. And theses are only the relatively shorter ranged versions of the SPIKE.
And congrats moszeus for becoming an R-DEV btw.
And congrats moszeus for becoming an R-DEV btw.
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Moszeusz6Pl
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
It won't have such long effective range in PR. Same as tanks can't kill from few kilometers.

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splatters
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Just handled a Spike simulator a couple of months ago, even saw a couple of live ones being fired! Model looks spot on, waiting to see it textured.
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Rhino
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Many of the weapons in PR should have a much longer range than they do ingame, the problem is the view distance.... As such its max range will be the same most other AT weapons ingame, and that is as far as you can see the targetgipakok wrote:Although won't this weapon be kinda unbalanced? The MR (Gil) has a range of 2.5km and the LR (Gomed) has a range of 4km. And theses are only the relatively shorter ranged versions of the SPIKE.
And congrats moszeus for becoming an R-DEV btw.
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gipakok
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Also I really hope this will replace the MATADOR sooner rather than later, not only the ingame version of it is inaccurate but the matador is only used against light armor and breach walls
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Glimmerman
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
W00t, nice one guys !
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lucky.BOY
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Wow, this is quite something 
Hope you wont mind a bit of feedback:
Now I understand you dont like welding stuff together, and it sure costs quite a bit of tris, but it saves UV space most of the time, and geometry is cheap compared to textures. So I think its better to have a 10k geomtry that uses like 70% UV space of a 7K geometry. Plus the model feels less like its a big mess
I know you guys overlap UVs to save space and make Z-fighting unnoticable, but that one is usable only to a extent.
Getting to the actual model, here is what I would do differently:

Weld these yellow boxes into the pink one?

Looking at what will be right in players face, these areas could use a bit more detail IMO (on that tube handle it depends on how it will be seen through deploy animation).

On this big cyllindrical thing, you can delete some of its polys, as they are fully covered by other geometry.

This gap is pointless. If you would move those faces closer together and weld them together, you would probably save a few tris, as well as loads of UV space.

Same with this gap here. This one is so obscured by other geometry that it took me while to get a good shot of it
Oh and one last thing, those circles on tube covers dont need that vertex in the middle
Other than that, an impressive peice of modelling, i must say. Have fun UVing it
Hope you wont mind a bit of feedback:
Now I understand you dont like welding stuff together, and it sure costs quite a bit of tris, but it saves UV space most of the time, and geometry is cheap compared to textures. So I think its better to have a 10k geomtry that uses like 70% UV space of a 7K geometry. Plus the model feels less like its a big mess
I know you guys overlap UVs to save space and make Z-fighting unnoticable, but that one is usable only to a extent.
Getting to the actual model, here is what I would do differently:

Weld these yellow boxes into the pink one?

Looking at what will be right in players face, these areas could use a bit more detail IMO (on that tube handle it depends on how it will be seen through deploy animation).

On this big cyllindrical thing, you can delete some of its polys, as they are fully covered by other geometry.

This gap is pointless. If you would move those faces closer together and weld them together, you would probably save a few tris, as well as loads of UV space.

Same with this gap here. This one is so obscured by other geometry that it took me while to get a good shot of it
Oh and one last thing, those circles on tube covers dont need that vertex in the middle
Other than that, an impressive peice of modelling, i must say. Have fun UVing it
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Rhino
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Re: [WEAPON] Spike MR/LR
Ye good points lucky, you guys should weld up pretty much everything you can, the end result will be miles better for it 



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